Recently NU has become abundant with a number of good hazard setters, and still has the fantastic spinblockers as before. However, it has next to no spinners able to beat the spinblockers. This leads to hazard centralized teams (both offensive and defensive) being seen as overpowered in many people’s eyes. There are a number of ways of dealing with this, as detailed below. (Please not that I am not suggesting or promoting any of the options below, merely detailing them to promote discussion) Ban or nerf the spinblockers. The defensive spinblockers in NU (primarily Frillish and Misdreavus) are almost unbeatable by the spinners in NU, stupid sets like Sub Toxic Cryogonal aside. Offensive spinblockers such as Rotom and Golurk are easier to deal with and do not have the same kind of staying power. However, the main reason Misdreavus and Frillish are so good at their jobs is because of Eviolite. So if you want to ban or nerf the spinblockers, there are yet still more options. We could outright ban them, or ban Eviolite on them. Ban or nerf the hazard setters. Recently many very good hazard layers dropped into NU (Crustle, Scolipede, Steelix). This is where the problem stems from, but the amount of Pokemon with access to Stealth Rock/Spikes is pretty large, and how can one determine which ones are overpowered and which are not? As for nerfing them, banning specific moves on specific Pokemon is seen as pretty drastic, but if that really is the best way to do it then so be it. Ban Hazards outright Perhaps the most controversial solution, this would see a ban on certain hazards, or indeed all 3. Or perhaps there should be a limit to one type of hazard per team? The combination of ways of doing this is pretty massive. Again, banning moves is seen as pretty drastic by some, but if it is the best solution then that is the direction we will take. So post your opinions on the matter here. Please note we will take almost all options into consideration, but be sure to back up your posts with solid reasoning and logic, as they are less likely to be taken seriously otherwise. Also, this thread will be closely moderated, and if we see any of the flaming and poor posting that went on in the Stealth Rock discussion then punishments will be handed out. You have been warned. Also note, this discussion is ONLY for NU. Hazard related issues in higher tiers are not to be discussed here.