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Threat Lists and List of Tiers

Discussion in 'Rate My Team' started by Halsey, May 16, 2012.

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  1. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    That's why I got people to do ubers for me.
    [/HIDE]

    Ubers Threatlist so far: Refer to my post #90
    Aegislash:
    Amoonguss:
    Arceus:
    [​IMG]Arceus
    [​IMG]Arceus-Bug:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Dark:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Dragon:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Electric:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fairy:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fighting:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fire:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Flying:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ghost:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Grass:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ground:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ice:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Poison:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Psychic:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Rock:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Steel:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Water:
    Blaziken:
    Blissey:
    Bronzong:
    Chansey:
    Clefable:
    Darkrai:
    Deoxys-A:
    Deoxys-D:
    Deoxys-S:
    Dialga:
    Ditto:
    Ferrothorn:
    Forretress:
    Garchomp:
    Gastrodon:
    Genesect:
    Gengar:
    Giratina:
    Giratina-O:
    Gliscor:
    Groudon:
    Gyarados:
    Heatran:
    Hippowdon:
    Ho-Oh:
    Jirachi:
    Kangaskhan:
    Klefki:
    Kyogre:
    Kyurem-W:
    Landorus-T:
    Lucario:
    Lugia:
    Mewtwo:
    Mewtwo-X:
    Mewtwo-Y:
    Palkia:
    Rayquaza:
    Reshiram:
    Scizor:
    Scolipede:
    Shaymin-S:
    Shedinja:
    Skarmory:
    Smeargle:
    Sylveon:
    Terrakion:
    Thundurus:
    Wobbuffet:
    Xerneas:
    Yveltal:
    Zekrom:
    [/hide]
     
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  2. Mr. Perry

    Mr. Perry and love is the name~

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  3. Slayer

    Slayer The Beast Incarnate

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    I'd add for Ubers:
    -Xatu: Defog it a thing now, but it can still prevent your opponent from using entry hazards, since Deo-S often lacks Dark Pulse.
    -Metagross: Very good Xerneas counter, especially with Assault Vest.
    -Tyranitar: Still a great special wall or good sweeper with its mega stone.
    -Kyurem-B: Not many fairys as counter in this tier, 170 base Atk.
     
  4. Ramiel

    Ramiel On our backs. In our hearts.

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    WHY DO PEOPLE SPELL BASED AMOONGUSS WRONG IT IRKS ME TO NO END DO YOU HEAR ME PEOPLE?

    Autism aside, I've got a few suggestions on my own.
    First things first, anyone can kinda mention the main threats, so I'll mostly be working to write on the Niches of the tier. This means that I freely admit that they are not the strongest threats there are. However, they are just barely usable to put people off guard/play heavy prediction based matches via unpredictability/small niches like Gastro.

    Landorus-I is better than one may expect, as it allows unpredictability in LO physical/special, and a decent enough phys bulk to tank at least one Espeed from an unboosted Ekiller when acting as a Rock Polish user. May try that there. 101 speed is also usable in the tier as a LO SD wallbreaker/LO Special attacker as it can outpace many 90~100s that reside in the tier.

    As Slayer said, Xatu. Supporting Xatu to the max :)

    I'd definately add Victini in there. Trick Room is a viable strategy in Ubers, and it does a good job of crushing through various offensive teams that exist on the ladder. Even Stall has troubles as it gets a rather easy switch on the likes of Ferro/Forry, ignores Gira-A due to its immunity to Will-o-Wisp, and breaks down Ho-oh/Groudon/Palkia core with proper predictions + a Life Orb.
    V for Victory~

    Thanks to Belly Drum and new physical Fairy STAB, Azumarill is definitely a choice. A gimmick to be sure, but a very usable one. Band can pull off extremely high damages, and no longer gets walled by any notable thing in Ubers. It's niche is that it becomes unwallable in Rain(Kyogre exists everywhere btw even with the rain nerf), as Ferrothorn/Gastro/Dialga, the opponent's common Kyogre counter/tanks, cannot switch in on Azu. Ho-oh, a fairly common mon used in Ubers to get rid of pesky Fairies, is completely crushed by Azu.

    Charizard X/Y is now completely viable as a teammate in XY Ubers.
    X can act as a powerful wallbreaker alongside Ho-oh, as it can quickly spam DD'd Outrage on Ho-oh's main counters such as Tyranitar and Arc-Rock. Arc-Rock will be taking a severe hit if it swapped on a DD, allowing others to finish it off, or prevent it from recovering ever again. Much better than Reshiram imo.

    Y has a niche. Sunny day/Solarbeam/FireBlast/Filler can wreck a lot of unprepared teams with its firepower. Predict a Kyogre switch-in with Sunny day, and nuke others with its Drought and Fire moves. Again, heavily prediction reliant, but it is definitely one of the harder mons to wall if you lack a specific pink blob.

    I'll add on to this list as I find more fun viable things to use in Ubers.

    Are we going to do a simple analysis+ what counters what for the tier? I'd love to help if such a thing happens.
     
  5. Slayer

    Slayer The Beast Incarnate

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    I dont think that Zard-X (not 100% sure about Y) is used in any serious ubers team.
     
  6. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    Not usually at least, but I guess if you give it the right support like Ramiel was saying it could work. I'd need to test it (and Zard Y too) to see if it's good. As for Victini, I'm not sure. Its niche is sooooo tiny compared to other mons in that list, and from my experience, Trick Room isn't nearly as good as you're making it out to be. I haven't seen an Azumarill in my life so I'm kinda iffy on that too, but I guess I'll try it out too. The main problem I have with including these mons is that you're never ever going to rate a team and say "well you're really Azumarill weak so you should change that and that and that", especially when they are not used at all by a regular ladder player.
     
  7. Finchinator

    Finchinator Addicted and just can't get enough Tier Leader Tier Leader

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    Assuming this is the OU threat list, the following pokemon need to be added: Keldeo, Starmie, Scolipede, Quagsire, Salamence, Jolteon, Jellicent, Noivern, Chesnaught, Amoonguss, Blastoise (eh), Heracross, Gastrodon, Hippowdon, Reuniclus, Magnezone, Kingdra, Staraptor (eh), Suicune (eh), Metagross, Politoed, Haxorus, Roserade (eh), Aggron (eh), Dugtrio (eh), Tornadus(-T), and Ninetales. The ones that have (eh) next to them are debatable. If you need any clarification or justification, just ask.
     
  8. Poli

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    Add Tyranitar (huge bulk, I've seen some rest sleep talk sets with mega etc...), pretty sure Xatu cannot Defog without losing its niche that's Magic Bounce (in the tb Defog is a gen 4 TM and MBounce is a gen 5/6 (?) ability), Deo D is slower than the most common Defogger (Arceus) and Darkai and Yveltal just love to face this guy, it still has Taunt but it loses all his hazards at least once so Idk if it should be listed there, Forretress is used way less than past gen and for a reason, Defog>>>>RSpin (spinning was hard before anyway) its only niche is setting those 3 hazards, it loses to Xerneas if Sturdy is broken, I'd use a Scolipede (really underrated poke right here) for hazards and an Arceus for Defog over it

    EDIT: If Xatu can run Defog with Magic Bounce (I doubt) feel free to ignore what I said

    EDIT2: Never seen an Azumarill, and Victini is meh since Sun doesn't stay forever and Idk how you are supposed to use this thing like send Groudon and then what? send Victini into ???
     
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  9. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Badged Deucer

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    I'm agreeing with ZoroDark on Victini. In practice it's ok enough on the ladder but in serious matches very few run trick room and the few that do only really run trick room on palkia, bronzong, maybe an arceus form, and it's highly unlikely to be run on anything else.

    Tyranitar deserves to be in there, it's still a great anti-lead, although I can say nothing of the effect of its mega.
    Azumarill/Xatu/Forretress/Deo-D lol. I guess if they're in threat lists they're way down at the bottom, I've not seen a single one used seriously.
    Scolipede deserves a spot, it's a great lead at both baton passing boosts and setting up hazards; it is underrated by some.
    Zard X and Y are both legitimate, I think on smogon's ubers viability thread donkey and I think trick room were both praising their capabilities. A really rare sight and I haven't seen them but I hear they're really very good; I think shrang is going to test zard X soon as well.
    Metagross is awful. Set up bait for a lot of mons, there are so many better xerneas checks and counters that don't do that. Please don't use it.
    PLEASE take shedinja off the list, I know fixed made it work, but seriously in such a status heavy meta it's awful [I even tried to write the smogon analysis for it and got QC 3/3 rejected]
    Add Quagsire to the Ubers list, it is a legitimate ekiller counter with unaware. I don't remember what else it does but it puts in work I've heard.
    And tbh I'd probably go with most of what ZoroDark is saying in here about ubers, it's making more sense than what slayer/ramiel seem to be saying, overall. Ofc though it's all open for discussion, but these are my two cents.
     
  10. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Shitty phone, b_s

    I was thinking of making a specific moveset threatlist under each pokemon as well, but its not my priority atm. We should get all of the viable pokemon into the threatlist then make an analysis.

    Ubers Threatlist so far:
    Aegislash:
    Amoonguss:
    Arceus:
    [​IMG]Arceus
    [​IMG]Arceus-Bug:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Dark:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Dragon:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Electric:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fairy:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fighting:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Fire:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Flying:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ghost:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Grass:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ground:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Ice:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Poison:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Psychic:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Rock:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Steel:
    [​IMG]Arceus-Water:
    Blaziken:
    Blissey:
    Bronzong:
    Chansey:
    Charizard:
    Clefable:
    Darkrai:
    Deoxys-A:
    Deoxys-D:
    Deoxys-S:
    Dialga:
    Ditto:
    Ferrothorn:
    Forretress:
    Garchomp:
    Gastrodon:
    Genesect:
    Gengar:
    Giratina:
    Giratina-O:
    Gliscor:
    Groudon:
    Gyarados:
    Heatran:
    Hippowdon:
    Ho-Oh:
    Jirachi:
    Kangaskhan:
    Klefki:
    Kyogre:
    Kyurem-W:
    Landorus-T:
    Lucario:
    Lugia:
    Mewtwo:
    Mewtwo-X:
    Mewtwo-Y:
    Palkia:
    Rayquaza:
    Reshiram:
    Scizor:
    Scolipede:
    Shaymin-S:
    Skarmory:
    Smeargle:
    Sylveon:
    Terrakion:
    Thundurus:
    Tyranitar
    Wobbuffet:
    Xatu:
    Xerneas:
    Yveltal:
    Zekrom:
    [/hide]

    OU Threatlist so far:
    Abomasnow:
    Aegislash:
    Aggron:
    Alakazam:
    Amoonguss:
    Azumarill:
    Bisharp:
    Blastoise:
    Blissey:
    Breloom:
    Celebi:
    Chansey:
    Charizard X:
    Charizard Y:
    Chesnaught:
    Clefable:
    Cloyster:
    Conkeldurr:
    Crobat:
    Deoxys-D:
    Deoxys-S:
    Diggersby:
    Ditto:
    Donphan:
    Dragonite:
    Espeon:
    Excadrill:
    Ferrothorn:
    Forretress:
    Galvantula:
    Garchomp:
    Gardevoir:
    Gastrodon:
    Genesect:
    Gengar:
    Gliscor:
    Goodra:
    Greninja:
    Gyarados:
    Haxorus:
    Heatran:
    Heracross:
    Hippowdon:
    Hydreigon:
    Infernape:
    Jellicent:
    Jirachi:
    Jolteon:
    Keldeo:
    Kingdra:
    Klefki:
    Kyurem-B:
    Landorus:
    Landorus-T:
    Latias:
    Latios:
    Lucario:
    Magnezone:
    Mamoswine:
    Manaphy:
    Mandibuzz:
    Mawile:
    Medicham:
    Metagross:
    Mew:
    Ninetales:
    Noivern:
    Politoed:
    Pinsir:
    Porygon2:
    Quagsire:
    Reuniclus:
    Rotom-H
    Rotom-W:
    Sableye:
    Salamence:
    Scizor:
    Scolipede:
    Skarmory:
    Slowbro:
    Slowking:
    Smeargle:
    Starmie:
    Sylveon:
    Talonflame:
    Tentacruel:
    Terrakion:
    Thundurus:
    Thundurus-T:
    Togekiss:
    Tornadus:
    Tornadus-T:
    Trevenant:
    Tyranitar:
    Vaporeon:
    Venusaur:
    Victini:
    Volcarona:
    Weavile:
    Zapdos:
    Zygarde:
    [/HIDE]

    Thanks finch and karppu (gave me a separate ou threatlist) for cleaning up the ou threatlist! Ones that I don't think should be in the OU Threatlist as well:
    Staraptor , Suicune, Roserade, Dugtrio

    Discuss whether these pokemon that should be in the threatlist. Feel free to throw in others as well, but make sure you have the necessary justification why it should be in the threatlist.

    Edit: Done some of the pictures for XY UU
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2014
  11. Fixed

    Fixed Active Member

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    Following a pm from DracoNinja, I have added movesets to the threat list. You can see the result here: http://pastebin.com/gNnKQCav. We will also split the list into offensive and defensive threats, so that's why every set has an O or D next to it. A few remarks:

    - I don't know what sets some Pokemon run, so I have left some Pokemon open.
    - Do we really need all the Arceus formes? Steel probably deserves a set, Fighting and Poison are on the edge...and what are all the others even supposed to do?
    - We might split off the niche threats into a separate list. In that case I think we should put the following Pokemon there:

    Amoonguss (?), Bronzong, Charizard, Deoxys-D (or remove altogether), Ditto, Forretress, Garchomp, Gastrodon (?), Gyarados, Heatran (?), Klefki, Lucario, Skarmory, Wobbuffet, Xatu.

    - If you have any remarks, additions or corrections, please comment!

    EDIT: Updated list, thx Poli.
     
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  12. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Updated Ubers List, I'll get around finishing the rest when I'm not lazy busy
     
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  13. Mylo Xyloto

    Mylo Xyloto if your world falls apart, i'd start a riot

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    Made a XY LC Threat list:

    [​IMG] Abra:
    [​IMG] Amaura:
    [​IMG] Anorith:
    [​IMG] Archen:
    [​IMG] Axew:
    [​IMG] Bagon:
    [​IMG] Bellsprout:
    [​IMG] Bronzor:
    [​IMG] Bulbasaur:
    [​IMG] Bunnelby:
    [​IMG] Carvanha:
    [​IMG] Chimchar
    [​IMG] Chinchou:
    [​IMG] Clamperl:
    [​IMG] Cottonee:
    [​IMG] Corphish:
    [​IMG] Cranidos:
    [​IMG] Croagunk:
    [​IMG] Cubone:
    [​IMG] Darumaka:
    [​IMG] Deino:
    [​IMG] Diglett:
    [​IMG] Doduo:
    [​IMG] Dratini:
    [​IMG] Drifloon:
    [​IMG] Drilbur:
    [​IMG] Dwebble:
    [​IMG] Elekid:
    [​IMG] Exeggcute:
    [​IMG] Ferroseed:
    [​IMG] Fletchling:
    [​IMG] Foongus:
    [​IMG] Frillish:
    [​IMG] Froakie:
    [​IMG] Gastly:
    [​IMG] Grimer:
    [​IMG] Gothita:
    [​IMG] Hippopotas:
    [​IMG] Honedge:
    [​IMG] Horsea:
    [​IMG] Houndour:
    [​IMG] Inkay:
    [​IMG] Joltik:
    [​IMG] Kabuto:
    [​IMG] Koffing:
    [​IMG] Larvesta:
    [​IMG] Larvitar:
    [​IMG] Lickitung:
    [​IMG] Lileep:
    [​IMG] Machop:
    [​IMG] Magby:
    [​IMG] Magnemite:
    [​IMG] Mankey:
    [​IMG] Mantyke:
    [​IMG] Meditite:
    [​IMG] Meowth:
    [​IMG] Mienfoo:
    [​IMG]Misdreavus:
    [​IMG] Munchlax:
    [​IMG] Murkrow:
    [​IMG] Natu:
    [​IMG] Oddish:
    [​IMG] Omanyte:
    [​IMG] Onix:
    [​IMG] Pancham:
    [​IMG] Pawniard:
    [​IMG] Phantump:
    [​IMG] Ponyta:
    [​IMG] Porygon:
    [​IMG] Pumpkaboo:
    [​IMG] Purrloin:
    [​IMG] Riolu:
    [​IMG] Rufflet:
    [​IMG] Scraggy:
    [​IMG] Shellder:
    [​IMG] Shelmet:
    [​IMG] Skrelp:
    [​IMG] Slowpoke:
    [​IMG] Snover:
    [​IMG] Snubbull:
    [​IMG] Spinarak:
    [​IMG] Solosis:
    [​IMG] Spritzee:
    [​IMG] Staryu:
    [​IMG] Stunky:
    [​IMG] Surskit:
    [​IMG] Swirlix:
    [​IMG] Taillow:
    [​IMG] Teddiursa:
    [​IMG] Tentacool:
    [​IMG] Torchic:
    [​IMG] Timburr:
    [​IMG] Tirtouga:
    [​IMG] Tyrunt:
    [​IMG] Vullaby:
    [​IMG] Vulpix:
    [​IMG] Wynaut:
    [​IMG] Zigzagoon:
     
  14. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Added, thanks!
     
  15. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Badged Deucer

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    Gothitelle needs to be added to XY Ubers [It traps and sets up on arceus forms - good players do use it, I've seen it in SPL and suchlike]
     
  16. MetalGross

    MetalGross gems…

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    i was gonna use this for my own RMT and to make it pretty i added all the sprites
    didnt find zard x but ok
    but yeah here you go
    [​IMG]Abomasnow:


    [​IMG]Aegislash:


    [​IMG]Aggron:


    [​IMG]Alakazam:


    [​IMG]Amoonguss:

    [​IMG]Azumarill:

    [​IMG]Bisharp:

    [​IMG]Blastoise:

    [​IMG]Blissey:

    [​IMG]Breloom:

    [​IMG]Celebi:

    [​IMG]Chansey:

    [​IMG]Charizard X:

    [​IMG]Charizard Y:

    [​IMG]Chesnaught:

    [​IMG]Clefable:

    [​IMG]Cloyster:

    [​IMG]Conkeldurr:

    [​IMG]Crobat:

    [​IMG]Deoxys-D:

    [​IMG]Deoxys-S:

    [​IMG]Diggersby:

    [​IMG]Ditto:

    [​IMG]Donphan:

    [​IMG]Dragonite:

    [​IMG]Espeon:

    [​IMG]Excadrill:

    [​IMG]Ferrothorn:

    [​IMG]Forretress:

    [​IMG]Galvantula:

    [​IMG]Garchomp:

    [​IMG]Gardevoir:

    [​IMG]Gastrodon:

    [​IMG]Genesect:

    [​IMG]Gengar:

    [​IMG]Gliscor:

    [​IMG]Goodra:

    [​IMG]Greninja:

    [​IMG]Gyarados:

    [​IMG]Haxorus:

    [​IMG]Heatran:

    [​IMG]Heracross:

    [​IMG]Hippowdon:

    [​IMG]Hydreigon:

    [​IMG]Infernape:

    [​IMG]Jellicent:

    [​IMG]Jirachi:

    [​IMG]Jolteon:

    [​IMG]Keldeo:

    [​IMG]Kingdra:

    [​IMG]Klefki:

    [​IMG]Kyurem-B:

    [​IMG]Landorus:

    [​IMG]Landorus-T:

    [​IMG]Latias:

    [​IMG]Latios:

    [​IMG]Lucario:

    [​IMG]Magnezone:

    [​IMG]Mamoswine:

    [​IMG]Manaphy:

    [​IMG]Mandibuzz:

    [​IMG]Mawile:

    [​IMG]Medicham:

    [​IMG]Metagross:

    [​IMG]Mew:

    [​IMG]Ninetales:

    [​IMG]Noivern:

    [​IMG] Politoed:

    [​IMG] Pinsir:

    [​IMG]Porygon2:

    [​IMG]Quagsire:

    [​IMG]Reuniclus:

    [​IMG]Rotom-H

    [​IMG]Rotom-W:

    [​IMG]Sableye:

    [​IMG]Salamence:

    [​IMG]Scizor:

    [​IMG]Scolipede:

    [​IMG]Skarmory:

    [​IMG]Slowbro:

    [​IMG]Slowking:

    [​IMG]Smeargle:

    [​IMG]Starmie:

    [​IMG]Sylveon:

    [​IMG]Talonflame:

    [​IMG]Tentacruel:

    [​IMG]Terrakion:

    [​IMG]Thundurus:

    [​IMG]Thundurus-T:

    [​IMG]Togekiss:

    [​IMG] Tornadus:

    [​IMG]Tornadus-T:

    [​IMG] Trevenant:

    [​IMG]Tyranitar:

    [​IMG]Vaporeon:

    [​IMG]Venusaur:

    [​IMG]Victini:

    [​IMG]Volcarona:

    [​IMG]Weavile:

    [​IMG]Zapdos:

    [​IMG]Zygarde:
     
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  17. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Badged Deucer

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    Politoed/Pinsir/Tornadus/Trevenant have the wrong sprites @MetalGross
     
  18. MetalGross

    MetalGross gems…

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    Thanks for pointing that out, fixed it.
     
  19. Liarliarpantsonfire

    Liarliarpantsonfire Member

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    ^Hydreigon has Hippowdons sprite :3
     
  20. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    thanks metalgross!

    finished UU too yay!

    I need somebody to do LU and NU (coming out tomorrow double yay!) for me too.
     
  21. Joeypals!!

    Joeypals!! Don't you worry 'bout a thing~ Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    I was told to bump by someone, but w/e right? May as well add content! From what I've seen, the most prominent threats in NU are the weather abusers, most specifically Ludicolo. In the rain he can be an absolute beast with very solid coverage in Giga Drain, Ice Beam, and Hydro Pump. There's also the massive wall Cresselia, which with Moon blast and Psyshock could actually be a very potent offensive set. I'll attempt to come up with more NU threats later.

    Also, yay, post #500 on a contributory note~
     
  22. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Badged Deucer

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    XY, where legit legendaries which only suffer from mediocre typing are NU (seriously that's all that's wrong with cress), heck we have auto-summon weather + swift swim sweepers. At this rate we need an NEU again probably lol.. this gen is weird.


    .. and smogon have banned weather summoning from UU, ofc.
     
  23. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    [​IMG]Abomasnow-M:
    [​IMG]Aerodactyl-M:
    [​IMG]Alomomola:
    [​IMG]Amoonguss:
    [​IMG]Ampharos-M:
    [​IMG]Aromatisse:
    [​IMG]Avalugg:
    [​IMG]Azelf:
    [​IMG]Banette-M:
    [​IMG]Bronzong:
    [​IMG]Celebi:
    [​IMG]Chesnaught:
    [​IMG]Cloyster:
    [​IMG]Cobalion:
    [​IMG]Cofagrigus:
    [​IMG]Cresselia:
    [​IMG]Deoxys-D:
    [​IMG]Dragalge:
    [​IMG]Druddigon:
    [​IMG]Durant:
    [​IMG]Emboar:
    [​IMG]Entei:
    [​IMG]Escavalier:
    [​IMG]Exploud:
    [​IMG]Feraligatr:
    [​IMG]Flygon:
    [​IMG]Froslass:
    [​IMG]Gallade:
    [​IMG]Gligar:
    [​IMG]Golurk:
    [​IMG]Goodra:
    [​IMG]Gorebyss:
    [​IMG]Gourgeist-XL:
    [​IMG]Granbull:
    [​IMG]Heliolisk:
    [​IMG]Hippowdon:
    [​IMG]Hitmonchan:
    [​IMG]Hitmonlee:
    [​IMG]Hitmontop:
    [​IMG]Houndoom-M:
    [​IMG]Jellicent:
    [​IMG]Kabutops:
    [​IMG]Krookodile:
    [​IMG]Kyurem:
    [​IMG]Ludicolo:
    [​IMG]Machamp:
    [​IMG]Magnezone:
    [​IMG]Malamar:
    [​IMG]Meloetta:
    [​IMG]Mismagius:
    [​IMG]Moltres:
    [​IMG]Nidoqueen:
    [​IMG]Ninetales:
    [​IMG]Noivern:
    [​IMG]Politoed:
    [​IMG]Poliwrath:
    [​IMG]Porygon2:
    [​IMG]Porygon-Z:
    [​IMG]Qwilfish:
    [​IMG]Raikou:
    [​IMG]Registeel:
    [​IMG]Reuniclus:
    [​IMG]Rotom-C:
    [​IMG]Rotom-H:
    [​IMG]Sableye:
    [​IMG]Sawk:
    [​IMG]Scrafty:
    [​IMG]Sharpedo:
    [​IMG]Shaymin:
    [​IMG]Sigilyph:
    [​IMG]Slowking:
    [​IMG]Slurpuff:
    [​IMG]Smeargle:
    [​IMG]Snorlax:
    [​IMG]Steelix:
    [​IMG]Swampert:
    [​IMG]Tangrowth:
    [​IMG]Tentacruel:
    [​IMG]Tornadus:
    [​IMG]Tornadus-T:
    [​IMG]Toxicroak:
    [​IMG]Trevenant:
    [​IMG]Tyrantrum:
    [​IMG]Uxie:
    [​IMG]Vaporeon:
    [​IMG]Venomoth:
    [​IMG]Victreebel:
    [​IMG]Virizion:
    [​IMG]Weezing:
    [​IMG]Whimsicott:
    [​IMG]Xatu:
    [​IMG]Yanmega:

    This LU Threatlist is courtesy of @Karppu <3
     
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  24. Celestial Phantom

    Celestial Phantom YAHA

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    Karppu's lazy Draco, so he asked me to look over and see things that are missing/might not be worth a spot.

    (21:52) Celestial Phantom: k so first thing i see is that porygon2's image is a porygon. second i don't see ambipom and it might be worth a mention due to speed + moves + ability.
    (21:57) Amaterasu: there isn't cinccino / dugtrio / jolteon either
    (22:10) Amaterasu: more things that i didn't put to that list, Braviary and Primeape

    Meh, out of those things, maybe Braviary + Ambipom are worth the mention. Primeape/Cinccino maybe, Jolt/Duggy are more situation or just outclassed in some regards (jolt via power issues). Don't see Zoroark on the list either, but then again it's not so much a big deal though very much still a threat. Other than that, I'm too tired to actually care beyond that right now.
     
  25. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Added Zoroark Braviary and Ambipom in LU Threatlist

    @Daybreak by any chance can you make a NU Threatlist too, thanks :tongue:
    (anyone can also make a nu threatlist too, i would be eternally grateful)
     
  26. Daybreak

    Daybreak can't touch this

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    Special thanks to @Veteran Padgett, @Windblown, @Selena Gomez, and @EljayQuiz for helping me finish this quickly. Also sorry @DracoNinja for this taking so long.

    [​IMG]Ambipom:
    [​IMG]Archeops:
    [​IMG]Aromatisse:
    [​IMG]Banette:
    [​IMG]Braviary:
    [​IMG]Bronzong:
    [​IMG]Chesnaught:
    [​IMG]Cinccino:
    [​IMG]Clawitzer:
    [​IMG]Claydol:
    [​IMG]Cryogonal:
    [​IMG]Delphox:
    [​IMG]Drapion:
    [​IMG]Druddigon:
    [​IMG]Dugtrio:
    [​IMG]TobyfantDurant:
    [​IMG]Dusclops:
    [​IMG]Dusknoir:
    [​IMG]Emboar:
    [​IMG]Exploud:
    [​IMG]Feraligatr:
    [​IMG]Ferroseed:
    [​IMG]Fletchinder:
    [​IMG]Froslass:
    [​IMG]Gallade:
    [​IMG]Gastrodon:
    [​IMG]Golbat:
    [​IMG]Golem:
    [​IMG]Golurk:
    [​IMG]Gorebyss:
    [​IMG]Gourgeist-XL:
    [​IMG]Granbull:
    [​IMG]Hariyama:
    [​IMG]Heliolisk:
    [​IMG]Hippowdon:
    [​IMG]Hitmonchan:
    [​IMG]Hitmontop:
    [​IMG]Jolteon:
    [​IMG]Jynx:
    [​IMG]Kabutops:
    [​IMG]Klinklang:
    [​IMG]Lanturn:
    [​IMG]Lilligant:
    [​IMG]Ludicolo:
    [​IMG]Magmortar:
    [​IMG]Magneton:
    [​IMG]Mesprit:
    [​IMG]Milotic:
    [​IMG]Miltank:
    [​IMG]Mismagius:
    [​IMG]Moltres:
    [​IMG]Natu:
    [​IMG]Ninetales:
    [​IMG]Ninjask:
    [​IMG]Omastar:
    [​IMG]Quagsire:
    [​IMG]Qwilfish:
    [​IMG]Registeel:
    [​IMG]Rhydon:
    [​IMG]Rotom:
    [​IMG]Rotom-C:
    [​IMG]Rotom-F:
    [​IMG]Rotom-S:
    [​IMG]Piloswine:
    [​IMG]Politoed:
    [​IMG]Poliwrath:
    [​IMG]Porygon2:
    [​IMG]Porygon-Z:
    [​IMG]Primeape:
    [​IMG]Samurott:
    [​IMG]Sandslash:
    [​IMG]Sawk:
    [​IMG]Sceptile:
    [​IMG]Scrafty:
    [​IMG]Scyther:
    [​IMG]Seismitoad:
    [​IMG]Shiftry:
    [​IMG]Shuckle:
    [​IMG]Sigilyph:
    [​IMG]Skuntank:
    [​IMG]Slurpuff:
    [​IMG] Spiritomb:
    [​IMG]Steelix:
    [​IMG]Stoutland:
    [​IMG]Swampert:
    [​IMG]Swellow:
    [​IMG]Tangela:
    [​IMG]Tauros:
    [​IMG]Togetic:
    [​IMG]Typhlosion:
    [​IMG]Uxie:
    [​IMG]Vaporeon:
    [​IMG]Venomoth:
    [​IMG]Victreebel:
    [​IMG]Vileplume:
    [​IMG]Vivillon:
    [​IMG]Weezing:
    [​IMG]Whimsicott:
    [​IMG]Wobbuffet:
    [​IMG]Yanmega:
    [​IMG]Zangoose:
    [​IMG]Zoroark:
     
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  27. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    np g8 work, anyone is free to nitpick any of the pokemon listed in any of the threat lists btw (just don't give shit)
     
  28. Afro Smash

    Afro Smash Mfw I'm living the Australian dream

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    Add dese mons:
    Dragalge
    muk
    pyroar
    gurdurr
    avalugg
    kecleon
    accelgor
    masquerain
    regirock
    electivire
    bouff
     
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  29. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    Afro Smash I'll add in the pokemon you listed later, fixed new july/august tier shifts too! Feel free to post if I missed out anything!
     
  30. [OG] Swanna Lady

    [OG] Swanna Lady Y.......Yo......You.....YOU'RE FAT!

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    There is a problem with the spoiler things. When I click them it says "There was a security error".
     
  31. Oh So Penspin

    Oh So Penspin Hail RNGesus, our Lord and Saviour!

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    XY OU could receive an update; quite a lot of mons on the list are banned or irrelevant.
     
  32. .Rawr!

    .Rawr! c(°3°)כ

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    Its me or the links to all the prefix tags for the Team Archive forums in the OP post don't work? @Hikari

    Also:

    XY Ubers:
    add Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre

    XY OU:
    add Mega Sableye, Mega Diancie, Mega Gallade, Mega Altaria, Mega Lopunny, Mega Metagross
    Mega Mawile, Greninja, Aegislash, Genesect and both Deoxys are banned to ubers now
    take out Donphan, Jolteon and maybe Blastoise and put them in UU. Mawile to NU

    XY UU:
    add Mega Beedrill, Mega Pidgeot
    Gothitelle and Zygarde are OU now

    XY LU:
    add Mega Sceptile, Mega Glalie and Gothorita
    Krookodile is UU now

    XY NU:
    Venomoth and Slurpuff are LU now (slurpuff soon to be UU too)
     
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