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Vepix

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  1. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    Like nobody has suggested this theme and there is no author, I'll put it here to be reviewed :)

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    "translation": "Vepix"
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    "translation": "Vepix"
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    "translation": "Vepix"
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    "translation": "Vepix"
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    },
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    },
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    "help": "You are a Vepix! Type /kill to kill someone!",
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    "translation": "Vepix",
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    "help": "You are a Vepix! Type /kill to kill someone!",
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    }[/HIDE]

    http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=36h3D9Yg
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2012
  2. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    Man, i have been waiting for this theme to show up on here. I thought it was weird that no one had put it up. A lot of people seemed to like this game. Personally, it isn't that fun for me.

    There need to be more roles so that if more people want to they are able to play the game. I know you didn't make the code but there is some code in there that is completely useless. Like the "broadcast": "team". I know that doesn't really matter but there will be 29 less lines of code.
     
  3. t3 the third

    t3 the third Member

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    This theme may seem gimmicky but it heavily relies on finding out your own priority and the others' priority. Simple but with twists. Vepix has always been like this and we can't possible make changes to it. Approve
     
  4. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    That said, this theme should be given the new "nolynch" feature, since voting phase is pretty useless here.
     
  5. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    I just copied the raw, but I can adopt this theme, so I'll give it more Vepixes, so more people will join
     
  6. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    "nolynch" added
    more Vepixes added
     
  7. Altaria

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    Nobody likes uber killing themes but everyone likes Vepix because screw logic (and that it's been here since forever). Unofficial approve ^3^
     
  8. Zzyzx Road

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    Man, I seriously don't know what to think. This theme is so cool and all, I even enjoy playing it, but it's a peculiar case. No strategy is needed, it's about luck whether you stay alive and figure out your priority or not.
     
  9. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    That's what Yuna said. I (partially) share this opinion too!
     
  10. Altaria

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    That's what she said. All those strategies, all those thinking, all those PR-connecting bs... Why can't we mafians get a break and just kill anyone we like, without having to care about whether your accidental teamkill will earn you a mafia ban? And here's Vepix to solve all our woes!

    Just a little suggestion, since everyone gets 0 votes, why can't the nights be consecutive? (as in, without going through the tedious days. Like, after n1 it's immediately n2 without the d1 and d2 stuff.)
     
  11. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    That's why I added "nolynch". there will be no voting phase (but we can't skip the standby)
     
  12. Altaria

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    Ah. //awed
     
  13. Saltopus

    Saltopus P.I. Saltopus

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    While some may argue this theme holds no strategy and is just a kill fest, then you're half right. It is a kill fest but it teaches players a different type of strategy from the norm of certain themes. 1) Which nights to kill and which nights not to kill. 2) Understanding priority and how to use it to your advantage even when you have lowest priority.
    Approve for being a MC classic as well as being a top favorite.
     
  14. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    I personally think the new "tick" feature should be added here.

    Making the day phase lasting only 1 sec would make the game way faster, and beside the only actions are kill during the night.
     
  15. Vietpride

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    I like the point of this theme was meant to be a fast paced game that allows players to relax from being a villy in other themes. There is no strategy but the theme was obviously made for pure fun and have a good time with Mafia as I had seen many times as this theme was played. Approved.
     
  16. fitzy

    fitzy Heart of the cards Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    What viet said. Approved.
     
  17. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    It is not a theme I created. Like there is no author, is there a possibility for an "adoptedBy" feature to be coded in case it needs some update for me to be able to do it? Maybe it seems to be nonsense or an almost useless line for coding, but I wouldn't feel comfortable neither on putting my name as an "author" for a thing I didn't create nor I'd like to ask a MA to /update it every time it's necessary x.x
     
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  18. GreenWater10

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    Why would this theme need to be updated? Its perfect the way it is, conceptwise.

    Also, I'm sad that the new Vepix will not have the "Uber Vepix" role, with 3 kills. That was part of the humor in typing in /roles. But I guess some sacrifices will have to be made in order for a better mafia channel.
     
  19. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    I would prefer keeping Uber Vepix in the /roles, but not having it as an actual role, just as a laugh, but that's just me. Vepix, although a bit of a "targetting" game, does have slight strategies, such as trying to find out your priority, or trying to keep quiet to avoid getting killed n1 and n2. Although gimmicky, it's part of the Mafia channel's history.
     
  20. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    This theme is horrible.

    Approved [5]
     
  21. Beast

    Beast I do what I want

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    I love how Tesla was like this theme is horrible and then approved it. :P
     
  22. Shiny Rayquaza

    Shiny Rayquaza Your nightmare!

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    One question: How can Vepix which is just a killfest get approved, when Castle (another killfest) get's rejected?
     
  23. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak Pimp Hand Strong Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    This is exactly the reason why I am now reviewing this theme.


    Yes, it is a theme that has been here for a long time.
    Yes, it is a theme that some people enjoy.
    Yes, it means that you get a "break" from being a villager.

    Does that make it a good theme?


    Absolutely not.

    There is absolutely no skill whatsoever to this theme. You are automatically assigned a priority of which you are unaware until you actually kill - and by then you might even be dead. If by some pure chance you survive the first night, you might have some idea about your own priority - and that's only if no one with a higher priority killed the same person you did. However, unless people start announcing who it is they killed and what priority they are, you are unaware of the priority of others, thus bringing the theme back to just killing with no thought and relying on pure luck.


    If this theme gets approved, it will be a major setback for the Mafia Channel, especially considering the other "killfest" themes that have been rejected that will be brought back into Review and will end up being re-accepted. We'd be back at square one.

    I urge you all to reject this theme, as I am doing now.
     
  24. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    I will likewise reject for the same reasons as Oak.

    This is not a good Mafia theme. This is a joke Mafia theme mostly played because of the channels' absurd fetish with not being village. I'll admit that I used to find the theme fun (and the namesake is a cool guy), but quite frankly, we would be utter hypocrites to accept this and no other killfest themes.

    All killfests must go.
     
  25. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    As I've posted in Castle - I do not agree with kill-fests. There's no change in the norm; all it is - is senseless killing. It's prehistoric. There are loads of new commands we have that don't have to be mafia-styled; it could be very anti-mafia, but it has to be different than just "kill during the day & night". If we allow this it's going to set-off an unnecessary trend that we have been working as QC to stop. It is absolutely deplorable that this theme is being brought back to life because of the supposed longevity it has. Like with castle, I'm suggesting we hang it up - retire it. Let it go while it is good, not drag it on and tarnish it. This is not meant to be back for the improving Mafia channel.

    Reject.
     
  26. TheUnknownOne

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    Mafia needs kills to advance, though.
     
  27. Dark Phoenix

    Dark Phoenix Multidimensional Hero

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    Your post is incorrect on so many levels. If you wish to discuss the status of themes I'm going to have to ask you to elaborate on all your posts instead of giving back responses with no details. I've at least given multiple sentences yet you've often given out one word or at the most - one sentence. We are asking users to at least give us a reason why we should consider your responses instead of "but this this this that and this".
     
  28. Tesla Elesa

    Tesla Elesa Almost Quality

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    Is it a killfest? Yes. But is there some substance behind it? Kinda.

    Regardless of it meets the supposedly rigorous standards of mafia QC, I find it to be a nice little diversion. Doesn't even take too long without voting and day phases (add in "ticks").
     
  29. Altaria

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    Going to put my $0.02's worth.

    If this theme is accepted, just because it's up on the channel shouldn't mean it will send a message that other killfests will also be accepted. Maybe just one exception?
     
  30. Nicehat

    Nicehat PO client damage calc: preview.tinyurl.com/o8e7hss

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    There needs to be a separate channel dedicated to mindless killfest themes like this and Castle so the people who just want to play mindless killfests can go there and the people that actually want to play Mafia can play in the Mafia Channel.

    This would have the added benefit of weeding out the people who just want to play mindless killfests, thus hopefully increasing the average level of intelligence that can be expected from people playing Mafia. It would be like the difference between competitive tiers on PO and Challenge Cup.

    Plus, I'm sure there's a lot of different games you can make with the mafia codes that aren't Mafia but are still interesting (like Rotom) so it's not like it would only be Vepix or Castle or whatever. It could unlock a new level of creativity when people aren't constrained to follow the general Mafia formula (2 mafia teams, town gets insp + distract + bg by default and gains spy, mayor, vig, samurai, and other assorted roles later on, and the lone role(s) are either WWs at the beginning or Godfathers or Daykillers at the end).
     
  31. Professor Oak

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    Such an idea would detract from the activity from the Mafia Channel, which is the opposite of what we want. We are aiming to keep an active and intelligent playerbase in the Mafia Channel, and having people just spam /kill does not cause people to think about what they are doing - they just target whoever the hell they want, and typically the same people every time the game is played. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the definition of "targetting", an offense which we ban people for?

    Comparing Mafia to Pokemon tiers is ridiculous. There are over 1000 people regularly on the server that want to play competitive Pokemon. At the absolute most, there's about 80 that want to play Mafia. Splitting that number down over the timezones is bad enough - splitting them between channels and games would be worse.

    We are not opposed to different styles of game in the Mafia Channel, so long as they don't completely rely on luck and require a bit of skill. Vepix, Castle and Daypix are all themes that just require you to hit /kill, only even thinking about who to kill at that time and hoping you don't end up dead first. That boils down to luck, not skill.

    I never played the Rotom theme (and survived long enough to get a feel for the game), so I can't comment on that one.
     
  32. Li Q. Assir

    Li Q. Assir Mindblower

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    I agree that Rotom early game is a killfest. But I think it really needs strategy, mainly later game. It could be here for review (what do you think, Rice?). Many people miss it, even though it is far from being my favourite theme, it's funny to be played.
     
  33. Altaria

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    Most of the "strategy" of Rotom died out when everybody went "OMG LET'S NOT CONVERT TO GET THE ACHIEVEMENT". Although achievements were gone the other time, many people still spammed that statement, which became quite annoying. I think otherwise, reiterating Li Q. Assir's statement, that Rotom was actually a nice theme. Besides, although there isn't that much strategy involved, you still have to pay lots attention and figure many things out by yourself (such as Wash Rotoms Kuja-ing the votes etc).
     
  34. Hobbes2

    Hobbes2 Aren't I dead or something

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    I understand the "all killfests must go" and i kinda agree, though i do think Vepix is a special case. I'm going to quote altarias post because i agree with it comletely.

    Just because one noobkiller is added doesnt' mean you have to add more.
     
  35. Altaria

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    But we should kind-of justify why this is a special case — why Vepix should be approved over Castle or NoobSpamKillBestTheem1032 or even to a lesser extent Rotom.

    Although I initially would have approved of the theme if I were in QC, opinions, opinions. Also as Ozma said, it simulates the feeling one gets when being a PR. When in truth everyone is just a villager. Ozma has good opinions.
     
  36. GreenWater10

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    So there was like 5 approves in a row, but then, Professor Oak made the next 3 reject the theme.

    I used to enjoy this theme, and yes, it is a theme loved by all. However, Professor Oak makes a good point that this is a theme with no strategy and is only target based. I used to think this should be approved, but after reading what Professor Oak has to say, I don't want it approved anymore. If I really felt like killing, I would go and play Halo instead of play a mafia theme with absolutely no excitement into it. Typing /kill and watching someone die on a server isn't as exciting as pressing the "x" button on the xbox and watching a cool animation of someone dying.
     
  37. Shiny Rayquaza

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    Why not just lock this tread, looking at how low chances are for Vepix ever getting uploaded again?
     
  38. GreenWater10

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    You would need 6 rejects for that, Shiny Rayquaza.
     
  39. DatXFire

    DatXFire Never gonna use an avatar

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    I feel that this is not what the mafia channel is looking for. While it is an old favourite I think this would be taking a step backwards for mafia QC. As I have seen so many times within these review threads, many of the novelty themes have been rejected because pf not having the "essence" of mafia. Mafia is about strategizing, connecting, lots of mind games, claiming and fakeclaiming, a tiny bit of luck, etc. not mindlessly killing and targetting. Therefore I give this theme an unofficial reject.
     
  40. Nainil

    Nainil The International of PO

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    I am in the same boat as Oak and Steel. Previous luck based themes and killfest themes have been rejected, and on these grounds, I am also rejecting.

    Total count so far:

    Approvals: 5
    Rejects: 4 .
     
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