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Pokemon That Deserve Better

Discussion in 'Pokémon Chat' started by SteelEdges, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. SteelEdges

    SteelEdges The Poll Dancer

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    In this thread, let's discuss Pokemon that need improvements either aesthetically or competitively and talk about what we'd do to improve them.

    I'll start with Delibird. I'd give it more Attack and Speed so its Aerial Ace Hustle set would be viable.
     
  2. MetalGross

    MetalGross gems…

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    It has Iron Fist, All Punching attacks + Iron Fist, good speed, but terrible attack
    I would give him more attack.
     
  3. Fille

    Fille True GenderBender

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    Flygon is a nice pokemon, it looks good, and has great typing+movepool, but lacks a good attack stat :/

    Another one for attack, at least 110 :S
     
  4. chippymunk

    chippymunk Bran-ed

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    Archeops. Great Atk. SpAtk and Spd. But that ability just sucks.

    Give it any other ability other than traunt. Solid rock would be nice but anything but defeatist.
     
  5. Scene

    Scene reverie

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    Give Leafeon a better movepool. Pretty much anything to use that 110 Attack stat :/
     
  6. Navz

    Navz $

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    Make Yanmega Bug/Dragon
     
  7. Archerknight

    Archerknight Legends

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    Give Kyurem-B pressure, his current ability sucks.

    Give Plusle and Minun more special attack and a greater movepool. :)
     
  8. Virizion

    Virizion ~ Taste the Rainbow ~

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    If Flareon had Flare Blitz, (possibly) Superpower and a little more speed it would be in UU or even OU; it also has a great ability in Guts.
     
  9. Windblown

    Windblown sable knight

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    Articuno with Magic Guard
     
  10. Hannah

    Hannah Come a little closer

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    More Hurricane spammers, notably Zapdos.
     
  11. Mr. N00b

    Mr. N00b Member

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    Pressure sucks for Kyurem-B. Teravolt is awesome.

    I say give Kyurem-B Dragon Dance and a reliable physical Ice STAB because Freeze Shock is not that great.
     
  12. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~

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    Just give Earth Power or something to Lilligant, god dammit Game Freak
     
  13. ZoroDark

    ZoroDark i know everything

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    Weavile looks so incredibly badass and has sweet attack and speed. But at least live it some high powered stabs or Technici or something.
     
  14. Hannah

    Hannah Come a little closer

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    Please Gamefreak... pleeeaaaaasseeee

    Make Catherine viable because she sux.
     
  15. Blitzamirin

    Blitzamirin Waluigi! Number one!

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    Release Shadow Tag Chandelure and give it Quiver Dance.
     
  16. twofivefive

    twofivefive don't call it a comeback

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    Give Klingklang Earthquake or Flame Wheel.

    Give Tentacruel Soak.

    Give Flygon Dragon Dance.

    Give Zekrom Swords Dance.
     
  17. Dzi

    Dzi So Nyuh Shi Dae

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    Give Eelektross more speed(100), more hp(100), Shadowball, Ice Beam, Surf, Hydro Pump, Focus Blast and Dark Pulse.
     
  18. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    I've noticed how similar this is to the 'Break a Pokemon' thread, lol. I like this sorta stuff.

    Stunfisk really wanted Volt Switch. :(

    Solrock could do with a physical Fire move to combat those common Grass type switch ins. Seriously gamefreak, you make a SUN pokemon without a physical fire move? Even fucking Flame Charge would've been nice. :(
     
  19. Wander

    Wander Shitty Wizard

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    Allowing it to 2HKO Bronzong sucks?

    I'd give Flygon Tinted Lens. Levitate is cool and all, but Tinted Lens would just be awesome.
    Giving anything with a lame ability Magic Guard also makes makes it like, twice as viable.
     
  20. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Not to mention that Tinted Lens is actually fitting, cause of Flygon's bug eyes. xD
     
  21. .Rawr!

    .Rawr! c(°3°)כ

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    Shell Smash to Golem + sturdy + edgequake coverage = fucking yeah
     
  22. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    ^ Not to mention a powerful priority in Sucker Punch. :3
     
  23. Metal Sonic

    Metal Sonic It's no use!

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    This is " how to make a pokemon OP" .....

    Give arceus base 999 stats because he is the god of all pokemon
     
  24. Dr. Fuji

    Dr. Fuji Active Member

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    Actually base stats cap at 255 but nice wishing!
     
  25. viamage

    viamage That one guy

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    That and make arceus look better, the first time I saw him(I played in ADV until platinum) I literally thought "this is supposed to be the 'god' of pokemon? he sucks and he'll never be as good as Rayquaza and Mewtwo!" I'm not sure how they would do it, but next to Rayquaza/groudon/kyorge/dialga he hardly conveys power or even authority to me. plus him coming out with like what 12 other legendaries. I already thought the legendaries in gen 3 was excessive so the high amounts just made me hate him and the other gen 4 legends even more.
    I know i turned that into a mini rant about gen 4 legends please forgive me
     
  26. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    I personally think Arceus looks like a llama. :D

    Though goat would make vague sense, for some kinda ironic sacrificial reasons. xD
     
  27. DarknessRising

    DarknessRising Da Baller

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    Give Garchomp Dragon Dance
    Give Gallade another moveslot
     
  28. DSM01

    DSM01 Jammin' out

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    So far this thread is just a rehash of the weekly "make your favorite Pokemon stronger" discussion, but I'll try to respond to the question that was posed in the title.

    Zekrom - A badass-looking cover legendary with a unique STAB combination that is held back by its nonexistent movepool. Giving it either Swords Dance or Superpower would finally allow Zekrom to command the respect it deserves and stop sitting in the shadows of the Uber tier.
    Reuniclus - Hailed as the death of stall and a potent threat to offense at the inception of BW, Reuniclus now hovers at the very bottom of OU. It had a lot of things going for it but ultimately it couldn't overcome it's pure Psychic typing. With a dual Psychic/Fighting typing it would gain neutrality to the Bug- and Dark-type attacks that currently plague it in addition to receiving STAB on Focus Blast, turning the little blastula into a force to be reckoned with.
    Dugtrio - If there's one Pokemon that deserves better, it's Dugtrio. At the very least it should have 100 Attack, not the disgraceful base 80 it has now.
    Durant - With Hustle and Hone Claws it has so much potential, but its terrible bulk keeps it overshadowed even in LU. Buffing its pathetic 48 Special Defense to 68 would give it 58/112/68 defenses, enough bulk to abuse it's plethora of useful resistances and safely set up a Hone Claws without dying instantly.
     
  29. puregenius

    puregenius :<

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    Latias needs heal bell
    Dpulse/heal bell/twave/roost would be such a good support set :s

    Slaking needs another ability like keen eye
    160atk 100spe would make him such an excellent revenge killer in ubers

    Give flygon base 135 Atk
    He's my fav and I would like to use him in ubers :(
     
  30. Xinc

    Xinc Time for Oras?

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    Either give Shedinja more speed and attack,
    or give it Sturdy.
    Sheddy's not viable :(
     
  31. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Sturdy wouldn't help Sheddy in the slightest. It'd remove the one reason to use it, i.e. those 12 immunities.
     
  32. Dr. Fuji

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    With 1 HP Sturdy makes Sheddy immune to almost everything definitely better then Wonder Guard.
     
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  33. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Hang on yeah, I read it wrong first time. I was thinking Focus Sash, i.e. would get broken after one hit. Oops. xD
     
  34. User Name

    User Name Life is a maze

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    If there's one Pokemon that deserves more than what Gamefreak gave it, it's probably Delibird. That thing got shanked gen 5, and I find it doubtful things are gonna get better come gen 6. XD
     
  35. Spoovo The Pirate

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    Yeah, getting Insomnia as a DW ability on top of Vital Spirit was a real kick in the teeth for poor Delibird. Unless it gets some perfect accuracy, 90 base power physical Ice move or something, the poor bugger's remaining screwed. :(
     
  36. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    Did you mean Arcanine?
     
  37. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Lol, Fuzzy's got a point. Guts is all that separates Arcanine from what Flareon could be, what with Close Combat being superior to Superpower.
     
  38. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~

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    I would like to see Escavalier given Earthquake or something as well :< (OR YOU KNOW, DRILL RUN GAMEFREAK?)
     
  39. DSM01

    DSM01 Jammin' out

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    The shallow movepool makes sense, though. It's a snail, it doesn't exactly cause the ground to tremble. And there's always Rock SMASH for beating up Aggrons and such.
     
  40. Crystal Moogle

    Crystal Moogle Ayaya~

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    tbf, a lot of pokémon don't really make sense with Earthquake. And a few pokemon with Drill Run only have horns :<< Esca should totally be able to use its Lances :3 (since it gets Megahorn too :<)