1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Guest, PO has ceased our separate tiering and adopted Smogon tiers for SM. More information and updates here.

    Dismiss Notice

[Final] Illumise

Discussion in 'Gen 5 NU Analyses' started by Spoovo The Pirate, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

    Sep 29, 2012
    Likes Received:

    {{Tier|BW2 NU}}

    {{Overview|If you thought Volbeat was a lost cause, you must've forgotten about his sister. Illumise is the prettier of the two fireflies, and has an almost identical movepool to Volbeat, with Wish and Growth being pretty much the only things that Illumise gets, but Volbeat does not. Illumise also suffers from the completely terrible base stats.

    Therefore, unless Volbeat somehow manages to overpower NU and ascend a tier, Illumise's Prankster sets will always be overshadowed by her brother. She therefore has to resort to something desperate in an attempt to stick out, as there are plenty of far superior Wish passers in NU (like Alomomola and Audino).

    Her best shot is using her best offensive ability, Tinted Lens. Illumise's stats are nothing special, but she's both faster and more powerful than Butterfree (at least before a Quiver Dance), which is just barely enough to scrape out a set. While bases of 73 and 85 are far from impressive, they could be a lot worse. Look at Luvdisc.

    Illumise may be one of the hardest pokemon to find a legit use for, but the rewards will pay off immensely if it were ever to do something useful in NU.}}

    {{Set|Rose Tinted Glasses|
    Illumise @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf / Life Orb
    Trait: Tinted Lens
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Bug Buzz
    - Thunderbolt
    - Giga Drain
    - Shadow Ball / Hidden Power Ice}}

    {{Comments|The female lovebug's movepool is not great, but it packs a surprising amount of power when combined with Tinted Lens and the Choice Specs, and pretty neat coverage too. Bug Buzz is the obligatory STAB, being Illumise's best one, while Thunderbolt hits bulky Waters and Flying types.

    Giga Drain hits NU's many Ground types, with Quagsire and Seismitoad being the most prominent ones. It also offsets the inevitable HP loss that a Bug-type will suffer on the battlefield. Shadow Ball and Hidden Power Ice are the remaining coverage options. Shadow Ball is mostly for Misdreavus, although it'll potentially hurt anything that isn't a Normal-type thanks to Tinted Lens, while Hidden Power Ice hits Altaria.

    The hold item is the most flexible part of this set. The Choice Specs packs power, and is the most recommended because Illumise really needs power, having only a mere base 73 Special Attack. The Choice Scarf however, boosts her Speed all the way up to a potential 427, and Tinted Lens' power boost will let her come out on top against a hilarious number of switch ins, with even 'resisted' things like Sawk risking a 2HKO from a Choice Scarf Bug Buzz. Finally, the Life Orb offers the most versatility, and any HP recoil can potentially be recovered with Giga Drain.

    Sadly, Illumise doesn't get Trick (unlike Volbeat!), so it's not present on this set. Another option would be Hidden Power Water, as that would let Illumise beat Camerupt pretty easily. While Tinted Lens makes it more appealing to simply throw moves around and hope for the best, it's not always wise with special walls like Lickilicky and Regice being common in the tier. Exercise some caution first.}}

    {{Options|Any support sets with Prankster are outclassed by Volbeat unless Illumise opts to use Wish on them. But that's not really enough for a set when Volbeat can Baton Pass Tail Glow, and there are much better Wish Passers in NU.

    Charge Beam can be used for stat boosts, possibly even for attempting a sweep. If Growth and Encore were legal together, Illumise would be able to distinguish itself from Volbeat by abusing a Growth passing set with Sunny Day support. But they're not.

    Dry Baton Passing can be done for scouting purposes, as Illumise's U-turn is almost shamefully weak. Counter can be used with the Focus Sash, and Roost is Illumise's best recovery option.

    ...that's literally it. Poor useless thing.}}

    {{Checks|Since Volbeat outclasses Illumise in the 'annoying Prankster bug with Baton Pass' category, it therefore has a different set of checks and counters. That's at least something Illumise can boast...

    Frail and fast things will often find themselves being 2HKOed by Choice Specs boosted assaults even if they resist (Sawk risks being 2HKOed by a Choice Scarf Bug Buzz, for example), so it's better to leave the countering to special walls. Once that's established though, it's not hard to find something that'll stop Illumise. Lickilicky and Audino can't be hit for super effective damage and have Wish and Protect to stall Illumise out with, only having Special Defense drops to fear, while Regice is immune to stat drops, can 2HKO with Ice Beam and take hits like a champ. However, Regice lacks recovery and can eventually be worn down. Grumpig can't take Bug Buzzes very well, and Mandibuzz and Mantine can't take Thunderbolts too well either.

    Roselia is a fairly good choice, as Illumise basically never carries a Fire, Flying or Psychic move, and Roselia has reliable recovery in Rest and Natural Cure. It can also bring Illumise down with Sludge Bombs. Emboar is a great offensive counter, due to resisting Bug Buzz 4x and being able to brutalise Illumise with a Fire STAB. Charizard would be able to boast the same thing were it not for Thunderbolt, as would Golbat with Brave Bird.

    Revenge killing this thing is a lot easier, as basically everything with some decent bulk can survive a neutral hit from Illumise and strike back. A stroke will fell the thing, so it won't be hard to kill. Anything super effective is pretty much a guarantee, with Fire, Rock and Flying moves all being perfect choices.}}

    Last edited: May 24, 2015
  2. Slowkii

    Slowkii Banned

    Jan 28, 2013
    Likes Received:
    I always took volbeat as a female. Oh god why....

    Why not a tail glow set? Oh, wait...

    In OO, you should try mentioning a weather set up set, with heat rock and damp rock respectively, and maybe mention T-wave and sub.
  3. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

    Sep 29, 2012
    Likes Received:
    There's nothing there that Volbeat doesn't do better, Slowkii. Otherwise I'd have included a full set for the standard Prankster support set. :(
  4. The Real Elmo

    The Real Elmo Caterpie hungers...

    Sep 9, 2010
    Likes Received:
    yeah, this is about all Illumise can do :/