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Juggernaut [Original]

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  1. Epikhairz

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    So here I am with the Juggernaut that was created before the Massive Update for Strategy!

    Code (RAW)
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10065307/Mafia/JuggernautE.js[/HIDE]

    Removed code cause too long

    Story:
    A local city-state has been left with a ruthless and powerful ruler, the Juggernaut! However, the only villagers left are the powerful Gunners, who are hell-bent on getting rid of the Juggernaut! Each night, the Juggernaut gets to max priority kill a Gunner, but the Gunners each get one kill too (immune to X-fire)! However, if a Gunner kills the Juggernaut, he assumes his role and corrupts, making him the new Juggernaut![/HIDE]

    Roles:
    Juggernaut:
    Most of the peaceful villagers have fled to neighboring villages, and every night, you get a chance to /kill [name] one of the violent Gunners at maximum priority and assert control of the village!

    Gunner:
    As a Gunner, you are fed up with the totalitarian rule of the Juggernaut and get to /kill [name] once per night in an attempt to kill the Juggernaut. If you manage to kill the Juggernaut, you will become the new Juggernaut! Gunners are immune to crossfire, so shoot away![/HIDE]


    The reason why I am doing this is because I've got fans of this theme all over the place who are upset with the update because this was "more fun". This has already been tested, so basically QCs can accept or decline right away, but might I remind the QCs that before you reject this theme for having "no strategy" and "not being conventional Mafia", might I remind you that people find this much more fun to play than even some of the approved themes on the server? I really hope that with the approval of this theme, I'll be able to break ground in Mafia land, much like what FF did years ago. And besides, why can't players have a break from constantly doing "PRs PM" and go on a classic fun killing spree? A bunch of other themes only incorporate a minuscule amount of strategy, which this also includes with "temporary cleaning".

    So, in conclusion, I (along with the many fans of the original Juggernaut) would like for this theme to be approved, but if you must decline, then I won't object too heavily.

    And just to be clear, I haven't ditched the other version of Juggernaut. I'm still working on that with IceKirby.

    EDIT: Adding an awesome quote featuring MA Roy Mustang's valid objective opinion on the Original Juggernaut and its strategy component:
    [/HIDE]

    History of EDITs:
    EDIT1: Added 2 charges for /frame for Juggernaut (protect + safeguard other) and added /destroy for Gunners (Kills Juggernaut and upgrades you to Juggernaut with 2 kills, but will kill you if you don't hit Juggernaut)

    EDIT2: Added a second Juggernaut for bigger games, and if Juggernaut kills other Juggernaut, they get advanced to Juggernaut with 2 kills. Also, each Gunner is his own team.[/HIDE]

    Approves: 2
    Declines: 3
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2013
  2. Slowkii

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    I enjoy this version <3
     
  3. Zzyzx Road

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    I personally prefer this. I admit I haven't looked at the code of either version, but yeah

    Also, just as advice, you could have posted both versions in the same OP since it's technically the same theme and only one version will be uploaded, if any.

    But yeah this > that
     
  4. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    I believe if this game was a 8ish player max, non-peak theme, it would work in it's current state. Non-peak games are Dethy and Vengeful right now, both require a bit of strategy. We do have a need for more Non-peak themes, and since Castle somehow made it on the server, there has to be some compromise somewhere.

    However, this is not an "approval," it is a recommendation for possibly getting an approve from me and possibly some other QC. By being non-peak, I feel some values can be compromised as the idea of Non-peak is to get people playing during dead times, and the theme does have a pretty high reception.

    Again, just thinking outloud here.
     
  5. Epikhairz

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    I think I can get the theme to work as both non-peak and peak, as the min. player count is only 3. I'll talk to Rice about it and see if I can get some changes made to Juggernaut so that the coding will incorporate both non-peak and peak versions of the "classic" free-for-all last-one-standing Juggernaut.
     
  6. Not L

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    What is the difference between this Juggernaut and Juggernaut v2.0, and why do we need to have both?
     
  7. Epikhairz

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    The Original Juggernaut was a Free-for-All, where the last one standing wins. v2.0 had a new goal of lynching the Juggernaut and working as a team to take him down. Original had minor strategy (temp cleaning/decieving), more killing, and deception, whilst v2.0 had more strategy, more cleaning, a lynch, and eventually, a known enemy who must be taken down.

    I believe both are fun and radically different enough to both be on the server, though I'm okay with only one of the two being on the server
     
  8. Roild

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    The small version would still need to procure a way for the first juggernaut to be able to win. Possibly a X-time or recharging second kill. Starting as Juggernaut would seriously suck. As for the using both themes in one, make sure the player amount is stated. (Possibly per player description)
     
  9. Zerowaltz

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    A log from a game earlier today. Note Night 3.
    (22:26:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:34) Times Up! :
    (22:26:34) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (22:26:34) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:26:34) Current Players: Arcturus, Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon, locustmad2013.
    (22:26:34) Time: Night 1
    (22:26:34) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:26:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:26:38) locustmad2013: (04:28:44) asparagus: daetsni siht yrt ot gniog
    (22:26:40) aeroburn: miss me? xD not i guess
    (22:26:48) locustmad2013: gooing to try this instead
    (22:26:50) knightofdragon: going to try this instead
    (22:26:53) aeroburn: xD
    (22:26:54) knightofdragon: not gooing
    (22:26:55) knightofdragon: :3
    (22:27:02) aeroburn: jugger here
    (22:27:04) aeroburn: xD
    (22:27:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:04) Times Up! :
    (22:27:04) ±Game: locustmad2013 (Gunner) was killed!
    (22:27:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:04) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:27:04) Current Players: Arcturus, Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:27:04) Time: Day 1
    (22:27:04) You have 15 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:27:04) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:09) aeroburn: wow aspa
    (22:27:10) knightofdragon: arc is cleared
    (22:27:11) aeroburn: guarded
    (22:27:12) McStarley: aero clean
    (22:27:14) aeroburn: aspa is guarded
    (22:27:15) aeroburn: xD
    (22:27:15) asparagus: locust is clean
    (22:27:17) Madrigal: McStarley is clean
    (22:27:19) Stylinsons: maddie is clean
    (22:27:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:19) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:27:19) Current Players: Arcturus, Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:27:19) Time: Day 1
    (22:27:19) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:27:19) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:19) aeroburn: aspa is the jugger
    (22:27:23) aeroburn: aspa is the jugger!
    (22:27:25) asparagus: im not
    (22:27:27) aeroburn: he got protected
    (22:27:28) McStarley: we vote or not
    (22:27:30) aeroburn: really?
    (22:27:30) ±Game: knightofdragon voted for asparagus!
    (22:27:31) Kogent: karp was !
    (22:27:32) ±Game: asparagus voted for aeroburn!
    (22:27:33) knightofdragon: we vote
    (22:27:34) aeroburn: wew
    (22:27:36) asparagus: no
    (22:27:38) aeroburn: dont vote aspa!
    (22:27:39) asparagus: vote another gunner
    (22:27:40) Kogent: Karp was !
    (22:27:40) McStarley: we vote he gets enraged
    (22:27:43) aeroburn: he will get enrage!
    (22:27:44) ±Game: McStarley voted for asparagus!
    (22:27:46) Stylinsons: .-.
    (22:27:48) aeroburn: LOLS
    (22:27:48) knightofdragon: and we shoot each otehr
    (22:27:48) ±Game: Karp Karpity voted for aeroburn!
    (22:27:48) knightofdragon: DUH
    (22:27:52) IP 123.108.223.86 is being overactive.
    (22:27:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:55) Times Up! :
    (22:27:55) No one was voted off! :
    (22:27:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:55) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:27:55) Current Players: Arcturus, Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:27:55) Time: Night 2
    (22:27:55) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:27:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:27:57) aeroburn: xD this is epic
    (22:27:59) McStarley: pro tie
    (22:27:59) aeroburn: all shot that aspa
    (22:28:07) knightofdragon: inb4 i'm dead
    (22:28:07) aeroburn: xD
    (22:28:14) asparagus: im probably dead honestly
    (22:28:20) McStarley: inb4 knightofdragon is killed
    (22:28:21) aeroburn: shoot aspa
    (22:28:23) aeroburn: everyone
    (22:28:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:28) Times Up! :
    (22:28:28) ±Game: Arcturus (Gunner) was killed!
    (22:28:28) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (22:28:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:28) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:28:28) Current Players: Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:28:28) Time: Day 2
    (22:28:28) You have 15 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:28:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:33) knightofdragon: woah. did he guard?
    (22:28:33) aeroburn: wow guarded again
    (22:28:34) Madrigal: Hmm.
    (22:28:36) Stylinsons: Mc is cleeean.
    (22:28:38) aeroburn: xD yeah
    (22:28:42) Madrigal: Karp was guarded.
    (22:28:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:43) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:28:43) Current Players: Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:28:43) Time: Day 2
    (22:28:43) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:28:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:28:46) asparagus: when you shoot other gunners they are guarded
    (22:28:47) aeroburn: see he is the bad guy
    (22:28:47) knightofdragon: o_o
    (22:28:47) Karp Karpity: ?
    (22:28:50) Karp Karpity: what?
    (22:28:53) aeroburn: no they are not
    (22:28:54) knightofdragon: they evade if you shoot another gunner
    (22:28:54) McStarley: (20:28) Sebastian Hummel: post this please since they don't seem to get it?
    (22:28:54) McStarley: (20:28) Sebastian Hummel: change: juggernaut has protects+safeguards that it can use to frame people as juggernaut
    (22:28:57) aeroburn: all gunners evade
    (22:29:02) aeroburn: oh really?
    (22:29:03) McStarley: was pm'ed
    (22:29:08) Battle between Zerowaltz and SuperMrJMT started.
    (22:29:09) asparagus: im not jugger
    (22:29:09) aeroburn: LOLS
    (22:29:09) asparagus: though
    (22:29:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:13) Times Up! :
    (22:29:13) No one was voted off! :
    (22:29:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:13) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:29:13) Current Players: Karp Karpity, Kogent, Madrigal, McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn, asparagus, knightofdragon.
    (22:29:13) Time: Night 3
    (22:29:13) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:29:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:15) knightofdragon: pft
    (22:29:17) aeroburn: xD iam getting aspa still
    (22:29:24) knightofdragon: i'm going to do this in alphabetical order
    (22:29:28) asparagus: you are wasting your time
    (22:29:31) aeroburn: other shoot karp
    (22:29:38) McStarley: bg is not 100%
    (22:29:38) aeroburn: shoot karp too
    (22:29:42) McStarley: i think
    (22:29:43) knightofdragon: karp is cleared
    (22:29:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:43) Times Up! :
    (22:29:43) ±Game: knightofdragon (Gunner) was killed!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: Kogent (Gunner) was killed!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: Karp Karpity (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: Madrigal (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (22:29:43) ±Game: asparagus (Juggernaut) was killed!

    (22:29:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:43) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:29:43) Current Players: McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn.
    (22:29:43) Time: Day 3
    (22:29:43) You have 15 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (22:29:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:53) aeroburn: xD epic
    (22:29:54) Zeromare: LOL
    (22:29:54) McStarley: um
    (22:29:54) Stylinsons: .-.
    (22:29:57) aeroburn: uhmm
    (22:29:58) McStarley: that death
    (22:29:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:29:58) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:29:58) Current Players: McStarley, Stylinsons, aeroburn.
    (22:29:58) Time: Day 3
    (22:29:58) It's time to vote someone off, type /Vote [name], you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:29:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:02) ±Game: McStarley voted for aeroburn!
    (22:30:09) ±Game: aeroburn voted for aeroburn!
    (22:30:10) Stylinsons: I kept trying to kill Karp.
    (22:30:14) Stylinsons: Since n1
    (22:30:21) Stylinsons: but kept failing ;_;
    (22:30:21) aeroburn: xD
    (22:30:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:28) Times Up! :
    (22:30:28) ±Game: aeroburn (Gunner) was removed from the game!
    (22:30:28) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (22:30:28) Current Players: McStarley, Stylinsons.
    (22:30:28) Time: Night 4
    (22:30:28) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (22:30:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:30) Stylinsons: freaking protect.
    (22:30:43) Stylinsons: have mercy
    (22:30:45) McStarley: Hey there.
    (22:30:49) McStarley: What is that?
    (22:30:53) Stylinsons: kidding killing you now
    (22:30:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (22:30:58) Times Up! :
    (22:30:58) ±Game: Stylinsons (Gunner) was killed!
    (22:30:58) ±Game: The Juggernaut (McStarley) wins!
    (22:30:58) ***************************************************************************************[/HIDE] The Juggernaut can be killed on the turn he, as a Gunner, kills the original Juggernaut. If you're unlucky, you can be killed as soon as you become Juggernaut. This makes the person starting as Juggernaut basically at a disadvantage, if not impossible, to win.
     
  10. Epikhairz

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    Umm...wrong thread. This is for the Juggernaut that was played before lynch was added, and your log belongs to thread "Juggernaut v2.0". Nonetheless, you still bring up a good point, and in situations like these, it just comes down to luck, since they rarely happen.

    And also, QCs, can you tell me exactly what you're looking for in this theme? You guys are kind of all over the place right now and I need a few SOLID suggestions that Rice and I can work with, so yeah...
     
  11. Fuzzysqurl

    Fuzzysqurl baa baa mareep I do what I want Server Owner Developer I do what I want Server Owner Developer

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    No suggestions other than it is impossible for the juggernaut to try to blend in. If someone kills him and he self-protects, everyone knows immediately they found the Juggernaut.

    So that strategy quote is somewhat moot.
     
  12. Epikhairz

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    We changed the Juggernaut's /protect so that he gets two uses on any target, "framing" said targets as Juggernaut. The strategy lives on :D
     
  13. Katia

    Katia Haxy Haxy!

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    Hmm
    I have a better idea.

    How about you give the juggernaut a decent evade kill chance with a message that matches the other guys when they evade a kill.
     
  14. Roild

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    You can't code two uses PER target. :I. Just per juggernaut. Katia's idea is probably the simplest way to do it, so no one would be sure if they hit a juggernaut or not. 25% sounds good. As high as 33-40%. I wouldn't risk breaking the Juggernaut above that.
     
  15. IceKirby

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    What Epikhairz meant is that Juggernaut can now protect 2 targets, so it could use on itself and on someone else to frame that person.

    Also, Protect was added because Evasion was not possible. That's because each action you evade gets its own chance to evade, and since Gunner's /kill is a Copy + Kill action, it would be possible the Juggernaut would evade the Kill but not the Copy, so 2 Juggernauts would be in the game.
     
  16. Roild

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    ahhh, right. Gotcha. Framing another seems quite rare though. Considering there's only two uses. Still goes back to that main problem about first one not winning. I'd be more inclined to up that but add a failChance to it. So could or couldn't protect self, could or couldn't frame.
     
  17. Epikhairz

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    *BUMP* for Reviews :D
     
  18. citro

    citro CRYING LIGHTNING

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    I think this version is really boring in large game sizes. Similarly, the 'updated' version has problems with balance in games with less players. If you made them the same theme, just this edition was for nonpeak times (<10 players maybe?) then I'd be happy to accept.
     
  19. Epikhairz

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    UPDATE - I'm on my phone now so justt check OP for history of EDITs. Willgive a proper update when I get home

    What RiceKirby said PLUS the fact that this theme is now for 5 - 16 people, making it once again non-peak (or semi-peak?)
     
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  20. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Since I coded it for Epik, I'll give some extra details:

    -Juggernaut gets 2 charges of a /frame action, which is basically the same as their self-protect, but can only be used on other players. As the command name says, it's meant to make Gunners think other Gunners are the Juggernaut.
    -Gunner gets a /destroy action. It's an action that pierces Juggernaut's protection, but if used against another Gunner, will make the user die. When a Gunner successfully hit Juggernaut with this action, the user will become the new Juggernaut, but already in its second phase (2 kills).

    BTW, the code contains a part which will throw an error in the Theme Checker, but that will not break the theme (it's just there for aesthetycal reasons).
     
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    (19:09:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:09:03) Times Up! :
    (19:09:03) ±Game: The Juggernaut goes mad! How to stop them now?
    (19:09:03) ±Game: You are a Enraged Juggernaut!
    (19:09:03) ±Game: You are now going on a rampage! You can use /kidnap [name] up to 4 times during the game to make someone a hostage (vote a hostage to survive a lynch). You still can use /kill [name] twice per night, and you now evade 98% of the kills!
    (19:09:03) Current Roles: Enraged Juggernaut, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner.
    (19:09:03) Current Players: Antiochus, Catherine, Dubz, Hopkirk, Le Mini Cat.
    (19:09:03) Current Team: Enraged Juggernaut
    (19:09:03) Time: Night 3
    (19:09:03) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (19:09:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:09:06) Catherine: fun
    (19:09:10) ±Game: You have chosen to kidnap Dubz!
    (19:09:12) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Le Mini Cat!
    (19:09:14) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Catherine!
    (19:09:21) ±Game: You have chosen to kidnap Antiochus!
    (19:09:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (19:09:33) Times Up! :
    (19:09:33) ±Game: Catherine (Gunner) was killed!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: You can make 2 more hostages!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: A Gunner was taken as a hostage by the Juggernaut!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: Your target (Antiochus) has been converted and is now a Hostage!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: The Enraged Juggernaut keeps going!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: Your curse took effect and you changed roles!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: You are a Enraged Juggernaut!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: You are stronger now! You can use /kidnap [name] up to 4 times during the game to make someone a hostage (vote a hostage to survive a lynch). You still can use /kill [name] to defeat 2 targets per night, and you now evade 98% of the kills!
    (19:09:33) ±Game: The Hostage is Antiochus!
    (19:09:33) ***************************************************************************************

    Said i had two kills but only gave me one. (Also /kidnap seemed to use 2 charges but that may not have been a mistake).
     
  22. Roy Mustang

    Roy Mustang HOMOSEXUAL UNICORN

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    The new version is lackluster by comparison to this original imo, the only problem which the original had was chances of success for the original jugger. Adding a frame (I think I suggested something of the sort) and the extra command for gunner more than fixes that problem. That's just my opinion, which I voiced in Victory Road today.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2013
  23. Epikhairz

    Epikhairz Delta Stream

    Joined:
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    Epikhairz
    Log: (even though I saw it, I couldn't play cuz irl stuff I needed to do ;~; )
    (20:59:53) ***************************************************************************************
    (20:59:53) ±Game: Karp Karpity started a game with theme Juggernaut!
    (20:59:53) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (20:59:53) ***************************************************************************************

    A Juggernaut-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (20:59:53) ±Game: For years, the Juggernaut has ruled the village with an iron fist, but as the population dwindled, a violent war between the Juggernaut and the Gunners began. The one to kill the Juggernaut becomes his successor, but just remember: absolute power corrupts absolutely. Be the last one standing! If you have any suggestions, PM Epikhairz0603.
    (20:59:53) ±Game: Karp Karpity joined the game!
    (20:59:54) ±Game: Pokemaster131 joined the game!
    (20:59:56) Pokemaster131: thank you
    (20:59:57) ±Game: GTFAN joined the game!
    (20:59:57) ±Game: Hyde joined the game!
    (20:59:59) Epikhairz0603: finally
    (21:00:00) ±Game: Doctor joined the game!
    (21:00:00) ±Game: Python joined the game!
    (21:00:04) la leyenda: .join
    (21:00:05) ±Game: la leyenda joined the game!
    (21:00:05) GTFAN: aww karp ninjad my juggernaut
    (21:00:16) Pokemaster131: so what changed?

    (21:00:23) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (21:00:30) ±Game: Nainil joined the game!
    (21:00:32) ±Game: Rev3nge joined the game!
    (21:00:35) ±Game: KettouRyuujin joined the game!
    (21:00:50) Pokemaster131: gunner here
    (21:00:53) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:00:53) Times Up! :
    (21:00:53) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (21:00:53) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:00:53) Current Players: Doctor, GTFAN, Hyde, Karp Karpity, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:00:53) Time: Night 1
    (21:00:53) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:00:53) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:00) Rev3nge: killing hyde
    (21:01:03) GTFAN: interesting
    (21:01:07) Hyde: ...
    (21:01:12) Karp Karpity: killing KettouRyuujin
    (21:01:21) GTFAN: killing GTFAN
    (21:01:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:23) Times Up! :
    (21:01:23) Game: Hyde (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:01:23) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:01:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:23) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:01:23) Current Players: Doctor, GTFAN, Karp Karpity, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:01:23) Time: Day 1
    (21:01:23) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:01:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:28) Karp Karpity: gunner
    (21:01:29) GTFAN: Rev3nge clean
    (21:01:30) Karp Karpity: evaded
    (21:01:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:33) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:01:33) Current Players: Doctor, GTFAN, Karp Karpity, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:01:33) Time: Night 2
    (21:01:33) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:01:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:01:34) Doctor: la leyenda is clean.
    (21:01:37) Nainil: GTFAN is clean
    (21:01:37) Pokemaster131: (00:00:51) Rev3nge: killing hyde
    (21:01:41) Pokemaster131: !
    (21:01:47) Doctor: lol
    (21:01:49) Rev3nge: framekill
    (21:01:50) Karp Karpity: frame?
    (21:01:54) Rev3nge: i just got cleaned
    (21:01:55) Doctor: GTFAN cleaned him.
    (21:01:55) GTFAN: revenge is clean lol
    (21:01:59) Pokemaster131: lol
    (21:02:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:03) Times Up! :
    (21:02:03) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:02:03) Game: Pokemaster131 (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:02:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:03) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:02:03) Current Players: Doctor, GTFAN, Karp Karpity, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:02:03) Time: Day 2
    (21:02:03) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:02:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:04) Nainil: Rev3nge, GTFAN and la leyenda cleaned so far, if claims are to be believed
    (21:02:08) KettouRyuujin: o.o
    (21:02:12) Karp Karpity: no votes
    (21:02:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:13) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:02:13) Current Players: Doctor, GTFAN, Karp Karpity, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:02:13) Time: Night 3
    (21:02:13) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:02:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:15) Karp Karpity: didnt kill
    (21:02:16) Doctor: well, Nainil evaded my kill.
    (21:02:17) Karp Karpity: my bad
    (21:02:22) Karp Karpity: lol
    (21:02:27) Doctor: after the juggernaut died
    (21:02:28) Nainil: And I'm cleaned now
    (21:02:28) Doctor: so
    (21:02:35) Doctor: yeah
    (21:02:40) la leyenda: its karp
    (21:02:42) la leyenda: hes always bad
    (21:02:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:43) Times Up! :
    (21:02:43) Game: KettouRyuujin (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:02:43) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:02:43) Game: GTFAN (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:02:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:43) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:02:43) Current Players: Doctor, Karp Karpity, Nainil, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:02:43) Time: Day 3
    (21:02:43) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:02:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:50) Doctor: Python is cleaned
    (21:02:51) Rev3nge: doctor clean
    (21:02:52) Karp Karpity: LOL
    (21:02:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:02:54) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:02:54) Current Players: Doctor, Karp Karpity, Nainil, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:02:54) Time: Night 4
    (21:02:54) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:02:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:08) Doctor: should I /destroy?
    (21:03:13) Nainil: go ahead
    (21:03:15) Doctor: not worth it.
    (21:03:17) Doctor: :x
    (21:03:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:23) Times Up! :
    (21:03:23) Game: Nainil (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:03:23) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:03:23) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:24) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:03:24) Current Players: Doctor, Karp Karpity, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:03:25) Time: Day 4
    (21:03:25) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:03:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:30) Rev3nge: la ley clean
    (21:03:31) Doctor: well, juggernaut htought like me
    (21:03:32) la leyenda: ok so me and doctor are clean
    (21:03:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:33) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:03:33) Current Players: Doctor, Karp Karpity, Python, Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:03:33) Time: Night 5
    (21:03:33) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:03:33) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:03:54) Rev3nge: it's python or karp
    (21:03:58) la leyenda: destroying karp
    (21:04:00) Doctor: yeah
    (21:04:01) la leyenda: atm
    (21:04:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:03) Times Up! :
    (21:04:03) Game: Doctor (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:04:03) Game: Python (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:04:03) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:04:03) Game: Karp Karpity (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:04:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:03) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:04:03) Current Players: Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:04:03) Time: Day 5
    (21:04:03) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:04:03) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:13) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:04:13) Current Players: Rev3nge, la leyenda.
    (21:04:13) Time: Night 6
    (21:04:13) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:04:13) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:13) Rev3nge: well this is awkward
    (21:04:17) la leyenda: hi friend
    (21:04:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:43) Times Up! :
    (21:04:43) Game: Rev3nge (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:04:43) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:04:43) ±Game: The Juggernaut (la leyenda) wins!
    (21:04:43) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:46) Epikhairz0603: So...thoughts?

    (21:04:47) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:04:47) ±Game: KettouRyuujin started a game with theme Survivors!
    (21:04:47) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (21:04:47) ***************************************************************************************

    A Survivors-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (21:04:47) ±Game: The Zombies have a certain amount of time to kill the humans before they manage to escape! The humans must try to survive, if at least one lives at the end, they win! The humans know each other, but the zombies must find their team themselves! There's also a sneaky Hybrid who can aid either side and will win no matter who wins as long as he lives.
    (21:04:47) ±Game: KettouRyuujin joined the game!
    (21:04:48) ±Game: Pokemaster131 joined the game!
    (21:04:50) ±Game: Hyde joined the game!
    (21:04:50) KettouRyuujin: huh
    (21:04:51) ±Game: GTFAN joined the game!
    (21:04:55) la leyenda: i won
    (21:04:56) ±Game: Doctor joined the game!
    (21:04:56) Pokemaster131: pssst... provide a changelog
    (21:04:57) la leyenda: i bombed karp
    (21:04:59) ±Game: Python joined the game!
    (21:04:59) la leyenda: cuz hes always bad
    (21:05:07) Epikhairz0603: Any opinions on the game?
    (21:05:08) ±Game: Rev3nge joined the game!

    (21:05:16) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (21:05:18) la leyenda: i think its really fun
    (21:05:19) Rev3nge: epik, it went from moving too slow to moving too fast
    (21:05:20) Pokemaster131: i like the no votes
    (21:05:23) ±Game: Xinc joined the game!
    (21:05:32) Pokemaster131: but a static 2 kills? :P
    (21:05:37) Epikhairz0603: So...more people?
    (21:05:43) ±Game: Nainil joined the game!
    (21:05:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:05:46) Times Up! :
    (21:05:46) Well, Not Enough Players! :
    (21:05:46) You need at least 13 players to join (Current; 9).
    (21:05:46) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:05:46) Epikhairz0603: Not static, starts at two and escalates
    (21:05:48) Pokemaster131: more
    (21:05:51) Pokemaster131: oh

    (21:05:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:05:54) ±Game: Hyde started a game with theme FF!
    (21:05:54) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (21:05:54) ***************************************************************************************

    A FF-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (21:05:54) ±Game: All your favorite Final Fantasy heroes and villains have gathered for a gigantic battle royale! The villains bring threatening new abilities to the arena, each one able to cripple the heroes severely. Only one thing is certain, though - last party standing wins. [Update: Cecil completely remade. Have fun!]
    (21:05:54) ±Game: Hyde joined the game!
    (21:05:56) Epikhairz0603: to 5
    (21:05:58) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 joined the game!
    (21:06:01) Rev3nge: def designed for more people
    (21:06:01) ±Game: Nainil joined the game!
    (21:06:03) ±Game: Xinc joined the game!
    (21:06:06) ±Game: Rev3nge joined the game!
    (21:06:06) Epikhairz0603: So maybe I should increase player cap?
    (21:06:07) ±Game: GTFAN joined the game!
    (21:06:10) ±Game: Pokemaster131 joined the game!
    (21:06:20) KettouRyuujin: Hyde: NO

    (21:06:24) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (21:06:24) Hyde: :O?
    (21:06:24) Rev3nge: increase the player cap by far if you're gonna have it like that
    (21:06:31) Epikhairz0603: ok then i'll think bout it[/HIDE]

    General consensus was that this was better than the lynch version. However, there was some discussion that the game moved way too fast, so I may increase the player cap to 25 or something

    EDIT: Log2 (at min. player count of 5):
    (21:20:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:20:58) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 started a game with theme Juggernaut!
    (21:20:58) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
    (21:20:58) ***************************************************************************************

    A Juggernaut-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (21:20:58) ±Game: For years, the Juggernaut has ruled the village with an iron fist, but as the population dwindled, a violent war between the Juggernaut and the Gunners began. The one to kill the Juggernaut becomes his successor, but just remember: absolute power corrupts absolutely. Be the last one standing! If you have any suggestions, PM Epikhairz0603.
    (21:20:58) ±Game: You are detained for 3 more games [Reason: afk mid-game ].
    (21:20:59) ±Game: You are detained for 3 more games [Reason: afk mid-game ].
    (21:21:03) ±Game: Pokemaster131 joined the game!
    (21:21:03) GTFAN: sadly you couldnt have tied it xxx
    (21:21:04) ±Game: xxx trainer xxx joined the game!
    (21:21:05) ±Game: GTFAN joined the game!
    (21:21:07) Pokemaster131: uh oh
    (21:21:08) ±Game: Nainil joined the game!
    (21:21:09) Pokemaster131: not this again
    (21:21:10) Espeon: why did it have to be who died
    (21:21:10) Espeon: ;-;
    (21:21:13) Espeon: me
    (21:21:15) GTFAN: modhate
    (21:21:17) Pokemaster131: cuz we hate you
    (21:21:17) Pokemaster131: lol
    (21:21:20) Epikhairz0603: Awww I got detained for being DCd

    (21:21:28) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (21:21:30) Pokemaster131: serves you right
    (21:21:30) ±Game: KettouRyuujin joined the game!
    (21:21:31) Epikhairz0603: I can't test my own theme now ;~;
    (21:21:34) GTFAN: lol
    (21:21:36) Pokemaster131: lol
    (21:21:37) Epikhairz0603: I DCd lol
    (21:21:40) GTFAN: espy can he jump in here?
    (21:21:44) Pokemaster131: no
    (21:21:45) Epikhairz0603: I didn't WANT to go AFK
    (21:21:55) GTFAN: oh wellz
    (21:21:56) Pokemaster131: get a stable internet then
    (21:21:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:21:58) Times Up! :
    (21:21:58) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (21:21:58) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:21:58) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, xxx trainer xxx.
    (21:21:58) Time: Night 1
    (21:21:58) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:21:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:22:04) GTFAN: okay only four gunners
    (21:22:08) Pokemaster131: this will end so quickly
    (21:22:09) Pokemaster131: 2 nights
    (21:22:20) ±Murkrow: Epikhairz0603 was released by Espeon!
    (21:22:24) ±Game: The game is in progress. Please type /join to join the next mafia game.
    (21:22:26) Espeon: sorry for the late release Epikhairz0603
    (21:22:27) GTFAN: lol now hes released XD
    (21:22:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:22:28) Times Up! :
    (21:22:28) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:22:28) No one died! :
    (21:22:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:22:28) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:22:28) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, xxx trainer xxx.
    (21:22:28) Time: Day 1
    (21:22:28) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:22:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:22:33) Pokemaster131: nainil clean
    (21:22:34) GTFAN: pokemaster clean
    (21:22:36) Nainil: KettouRyuujin evaded
    (21:22:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:22:38) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:22:38) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131, xxx trainer xxx.
    (21:22:38) Time: Night 2
    (21:22:38) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:22:38) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:08) Times Up! :
    (21:23:08) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:23:08) Game: xxx trainer xxx (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:23:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:08) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:23:08) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131.
    (21:23:08) Time: Day 2
    (21:23:08) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:23:08) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:14) Pokemaster131: hmmm
    (21:23:18) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:18) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:23:18) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Pokemaster131.
    (21:23:18) Time: Night 3
    (21:23:18) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:23:18) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:24) Pokemaster131: -silence-
    (21:23:29) Nainil: killing GTFAN
    (21:23:36) GTFAN: D:
    (21:23:39) ±Dratini: Badass Jigglypufff was muted by Heather Star for 1 hour! [Reason: R5] [Channel: Tohjo Falls]
    (21:23:48) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:48) Times Up! :
    (21:23:48) Game: Pokemaster131 (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:23:48) Game: Nainil (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:23:48) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:23:48) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:48) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:23:48) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin.
    (21:23:48) Time: Day 3
    (21:23:48) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:23:48) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:23:58) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:23:58) Current Players: GTFAN, KettouRyuujin.
    (21:23:58) Time: Night 4
    (21:23:58) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:23:58) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:24:04) GTFAN: bahaha
    (21:24:15) Nainil: I tried
    (21:24:16) Nainil: :<
    (21:24:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:24:28) Times Up! :
    (21:24:28) Game: KettouRyuujin (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:24:28) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:24:28) ±Game: The Juggernaut (GTFAN) wins!
    (21:24:28) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:24:31) Epikhairz0603: Nainil, did you use /destroy? It's a Kefka kill
    (21:24:31) Espeon: loool
    (21:24:32) GTFAN: :D
    [/HIDE]

    Log3:
    (21:48:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:48:45) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 started a game with theme Juggernaut!
    (21:48:45) ±Game: Type /Join to enter the game!
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    A Juggernaut-themed mafia game is starting, Epikhairz0603!
    (21:48:45) ±Game: For years, the Juggernaut has ruled the village with an iron fist, but as the population dwindled, a violent war between the Juggernaut and the Gunners began. The one to kill the Juggernaut becomes his successor, but just remember: absolute power corrupts absolutely. Be the last one standing! If you have any suggestions, PM Epikhairz0603.
    (21:48:45) ±Game: Epikhairz0603 joined the game!
    (21:48:46) ±Game: Szayel- joined the game!
    (21:48:48) Epikhairz0603: yeeee
    (21:48:49) ±Game: Keeper of Night joined the game!
    (21:48:51) ±Game: Doctor joined the game!
    (21:48:52) ±Game: Arcturus joined the game!
    (21:48:53) PandaofAzn: can someone explain how it said he was sableeye
    (21:48:54) ±Game: GTFAN joined the game!
    (21:48:54) ±Game: KettouRyuujin joined the game!
    (21:48:57) PandaofAzn: but he was claydol?
    (21:48:57) Nainil: Yes, Claydol reveals as Sableye
    (21:49:00) PandaofAzn: oh
    (21:49:01) ±Game: Prez. Obama joined the game!
    (21:49:02) Arcturus: Winner!
    (21:49:02) Szayel-: lol
    (21:49:04) ±Game: Nainil joined the game!
    (21:49:07) Szayel-: I kill some asses
    (21:49:09) PandaofAzn: anywhos im off
    (21:49:13) PandaofAzn: gonna go piss
    (21:49:14) PandaofAzn: and shit

    (21:49:14) ±Game: Hurry up, you only have 30 seconds more to join!

    (21:49:16) PandaofAzn: and wank
    (21:49:18) PandaofAzn: baiii
    (21:49:18) Epikhairz0603: wtf 0.o
    (21:49:20) Epikhairz0603: tmi
    (21:49:21) Nainil: I got entire Sableye team though
    (21:49:22) Nainil: gggg
    (21:49:24) ±Game: You already joined!
    (21:49:26) Szayel-: and a ninjask
    (21:49:29) Szayel-: a team of one
    (21:49:30) Szayel-: get you all
    (21:49:38) Epikhairz0603: He's a Kefka
    (21:49:38) Nainil: WW wins often in default small games
    (21:49:42) Epikhairz0603: And Kefka is cool
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    (21:49:45) Times Up! :
    (21:49:45) The Roles have been Decided! :
    (21:49:45) ±Game: You are a Gunner!
    (21:49:45) ±Game: As a Gunner, you are fed up with the totalitarian rule of the Juggernaut and get to /kill [name] once per night in an attempt to kill the Juggernaut. If you manage to kill the Juggernaut, you will become the new Juggernaut! Gunners are immune to crossfire, so shoot away! You have one chance to /destroy the Juggernaut and turn yourself into a Juggernaut who starts with 2 kills, but if you miss, you kill yourself in the mess, so be careful!
    (21:49:45) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:49:45) Current Players: Arcturus, Doctor, Epikhairz0603, GTFAN, Keeper of Night, KettouRyuujin, Nainil, Prez. Obama, Szayel-.
    (21:49:45) Current Team: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner
    (21:49:45) Time: Night 1
    (21:49:45) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
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    (21:49:52) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Nainil!
    (21:49:57) Nainil: Gunner hooray, killing Szayel-
    (21:50:06) Szayel-: Lol
    (21:50:12) Szayel-: Racism
    (21:50:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:14) Times Up! :
    (21:50:14) ±Game: Your target (Nainil) evaded your kill!
    (21:50:14) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:50:14) Game: KettouRyuujin (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:50:14) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:50:14) Game: Doctor (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:50:14) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:14) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:50:14) Current Players: Arcturus, Epikhairz0603, GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Prez. Obama, Szayel-.
    (21:50:14) Current Team: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner
    (21:50:14) Time: Day 1
    (21:50:14) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:50:15) ***************************************************************************************
    blah was banned by PolkaBot!
    (21:50:19) Szayel-: LOL!
    (21:50:21) Epikhairz0603: oh damn
    (21:50:21) Nainil: LOL
    (21:50:22) GTFAN: double kills
    (21:50:24) Epikhairz0603: Nainil clean
    (21:50:24) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:24) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:50:24) Current Players: Arcturus, Epikhairz0603, GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Prez. Obama, Szayel-.
    (21:50:24) Current Team: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner
    (21:50:24) Time: Night 2
    (21:50:24) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:50:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:29) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Arcturus!
    (21:50:30) Nainil: Szayel- clean
    (21:50:34) Szayel-: Dawn
    (21:50:42) Szayel-: RAND!
    (21:50:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:55) Times Up! :
    (21:50:55) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:50:55) ±Game: You copied someone and changed roles!
    (21:50:55) ±Game: You are a Juggernaut!
    (21:50:55) ±Game: As the new Juggernaut, you get a chance to /kill [name] one of the violent Gunners at maximum priority and assert control of the village! You can also use /protect [yourname] to guard yourself, but with a chance of failing! Additionally, you may use /frame [name] twice to make it seem as if he were the Juggernaut.
    (21:50:55) Game: Arcturus (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:50:55) ±Game: You will convert in 1 days.
    (21:50:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:50:55) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:50:55) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Prez. Obama, Szayel-.
    (21:50:55) Current Team: Juggernaut
    (21:50:55) Time: Day 2
    (21:50:55) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
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    (21:50:58) Szayel-: lol
    (21:51:00) Nainil: ...
    (21:51:03) Szayel-: its obviously obama
    (21:51:03) ±CommandBot: The command protect doesn't exist
    (21:51:03) GTFAN: ._.
    (21:51:04) Szayel-: is a thief
    (21:51:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:05) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:51:05) Current Players: Epikhairz0603, GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Prez. Obama, Szayel-.
    (21:51:05) Current Team: Juggernaut
    (21:51:05) Time: Night 3
    (21:51:05) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:51:05) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:05) Szayel-: lol
    (21:51:08) ±Game: You have chosen to frame Nainil!
    (21:51:10) ±Game: You have chosen to protect Epikhairz0603!
    (21:51:15) ±Game: You have chosen to kill Prez. Obama!
    (21:51:34) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:34) Times Up! :
    (21:51:34) Game: Prez. Obama (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:51:34) ±Game: A new Juggernaut was born!
    (21:51:35) ±Game: A Gunner destroyed you, bypassing your defenses!
    (21:51:35) Game: Epikhairz0603 (Juggernaut) was killed!
    (21:51:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:35) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:51:35) Current Players: GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Szayel-.
    (21:51:35) Time: Day 3
    (21:51:35) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:51:35) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:44) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:44) Current Roles: Gunner, Gunner, Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:51:44) Current Players: GTFAN, Keeper of Night, Nainil, Szayel-.
    (21:51:45) Time: Night 4
    (21:51:45) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:51:45) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:51:46) Nainil: Soooo
    (21:52:01) GTFAN: so yup
    (21:52:03) GTFAN: fun stuff
    (21:52:14) Nainil: yup yup
    (21:52:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:15) Times Up! :
    (21:52:15) Game: Nainil (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:52:15) Game: GTFAN (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:52:15) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:52:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:15) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:52:15) Current Players: Keeper of Night, Szayel-.
    (21:52:15) Time: Day 4
    (21:52:15) You have 10 seconds to debate who are the bad guys! :
    (21:52:15) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:24) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:24) Current Roles: Gunner, Juggernaut.
    (21:52:25) Current Players: Keeper of Night, Szayel-.
    (21:52:25) Time: Night 5
    (21:52:25) Make your moves, you only have 30 seconds! :
    (21:52:25) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:48) Keeper of Night: dun dun dun
    (21:52:53) Szayel-: DUN DUN DUN!!!!
    (21:52:54) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:54) Times Up! :
    (21:52:54) Game: Keeper of Night (Gunner) was killed!
    (21:52:55) ±Game: The Juggernaut keeps going!
    (21:52:55) ±Game: The Juggernaut (Szayel-) wins!
    (21:52:55) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:52:58) Doctor: Lol
    (21:52:58) Szayel-: ya
    (21:52:59) Epikhairz0603: So...any thoughts or suggestions on the theme?
    (21:53:00) Nainil: Keeper of Night
    (21:53:03) Szayel-: yay im the mother fucker
    (21:53:03) GTFAN: use the /destroy command
    (21:53:03) Doctor: that destroy didn't work out huh.
    (21:53:04) Nainil: y u no use /destroy
    (21:53:05) GTFAN: >.>
    (21:53:08) Szayel-: I use protect

    (21:53:10) ***************************************************************************************
    (21:53:10) ±Game: Blissey33 started a voting for next game's theme!. You have 20 seconds to vote with /votetheme!
    (21:53:10) ±Game: Choose from these themes: default, capcom, pc, weapons, zelda !
    (21:53:10) ***************************************************************************************

    (21:53:14) ±CommandBot: The command destroy doesn't exist
    (21:53:15) ±Game: Szayel- voted for Zelda!
    (21:53:15) Doctor: Destroy destroys that?
    (21:53:18) ±Game: GTFAN voted for Capcom!
    (21:53:19) Keeper of Night: I did ;.;
    (21:53:20) Szayel-: idk
    (21:53:20) ±Game: Blissey33 voted for Zelda!
    (21:53:22) Epikhairz0603: ./destroy is Kefka kill
    (21:53:24) ±Game: KettouRyuujin voted for Weapons!
    (21:53:26) Doctor: Yeah
    (21:53:26) Nainil: Destroy is like kefka
    (21:53:26) Doctor: so
    (21:53:29) Nainil: kills before Jugger
    [/HIDE]

    UPDATE - Player cap has been removed to find the optimal player count. If you think you know what max player cap should be, let me know!
     
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  24. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Since this is the "Last Man Standing" version, should we make each Gunner be on its own side?
     
  25. Epikhairz

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    I guess we could do that Although it would only be an aesthetic change and wouldn't really affect the gameplay, it would probably give players a much greater sense of a "Free-for-All" battle.
     
  26. MewtwoHidden

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    I actually just got an idea from Katia's post

    Let the ORIGINAL Juggernaut have a 20% evade chance on the kill. All other Juggernauts are the same as you have them now.

    I really enjoy the way it is now, I had my doubts at first but it really is a novelty theme which is something we need more of!
     
  27. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    Actually, having separate roles would make the priority among Gunners being decided by the game. As it is now, it's decided by the joining order.

    Also, random idea to think about: how would this theme work with a 2nd Juggernaut at large games?
     
  28. Roy Mustang

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    It's worth a test IMO. Then again, I am biased towards this theme for whatever reason lol, so my opinion doesn't carry much weight.
     
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    I think the separate teams should be implemented cuz priority not decided by join order. As for 2nd Juggernaut, I'll be off-server for a few days, so I'll think bout it then
     
  30. Epikhairz

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    Sorry for double post, but I just got an idea for juggernaut with 2 juggs.

    So, in bigger games, there would be two Juggernauts who know each other but cannot kill each other. When a Gunner kills one of the two Juggernauts, the Gunner becomes a New Juggernaut while the original's partner becomes an Enraged Juggernaut with an insanely high evade chance and tons of kills (maybe even a day kill), but at the cost of being exposed to all. This way, gunners will have to choose between going after the dangerous Enraged Juggernaut or going after the easy target (new juggernaut) but might get killed by Enraged.
     
  31. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I was thinking a simpler setup could be used. Just have 2 Juggernauts on different teams, and make it if one Juggernaut kill another, the killed Juggernaut is out for good, while the one who killed would instantly upgrade 1~2 forms.
     
  32. Epikhairz

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    Well, I guess simplicity may be what drew some people to this theme, so I think this should be tested, and hopefully WHOEVER took this theme off the server can put it back on once I've gotten approval.
     
  33. Roild

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    It was taken away from the server because someone (Most likely one of the authors) kept enabling it with an update. :O Idk who. It's changing a lot. :I Maybe you can decide on a final version before asking for review? That wasn't the initial problem though. It's tough to completely decide on this because it's a little on the edge with the tactics and the playability.
     
  34. IceKirby

    IceKirby A.K.A. RiceKirby

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    I guess the constant re-enabling due to update was really a problem. Perhaps themes in testing shouldn't be allowed to have the "author" attribute so only MAs can update them?
    As for the final version, I'd say the constant changes were mostly due to requests from the QC process. You know, all those "theme needs to have more teamwork" and "theme should be free-for-all" suggestions have been confusing.
     
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  35. Epikhairz

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    I swear to God, it wasn't me, and I'm the only author :I. In fact, I didn't even update to this version until I saw people playing v2.0 one day so I updated it. One or more of the MAs must really like this theme...
     
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    I understand. Is this the final version? Using all of the things people say, you two should decide on a final version. Once that's done, it will be easier to accept/reject, but fixes should only be made to that version.

    And it really hasn't been much of a problem. Just this theme, maybe it was one of the MAs. Idk.

    Hmmm.... Teamwork vs Free-for-all. Finding some balance and shit sounds promising. Some balance with with that balance. I'm sure it'll be the best it can be. And then I can decide what I think about it.
     
  37. Epikhairz

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    *BUMP* Here are some things new with the theme!

    Gunners are now each to their own team. This makes what was once a code <100 lines now super long. It also changes priority so it will not be defined solely by join order.
     
  38. Epikhairz

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    *BUMPING* again

    The funny thing is, this theme used to take all the attention away from Mt. Ember, but it's strange how things work...
     
  39. MewtwoHidden

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    Approve [1]

    I love playing this theme it is balanced as everybody has an equal chance to win and it is very fun to play. During testing it was played almost every time it could be played!


    btw you shouldn't bump at all let alone 2 days after a previous bump just pm the QC members and be patient
     
  40. Epikhairz

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    Thanks MewtwoHidden for the first approve! I think the high reception of the theme plays in my favor quite well :D.

    And srry. I guess I was a little impatient, though last time it wasn't as much of a bump as it was an update
     
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