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[Final] Gardevoir

Discussion in 'Gen 5 NU Analyses' started by Xdevo, May 14, 2013.

  1. Xdevo

    Xdevo Phrasing Super Moderator Tour Director Super Moderator Tour Director

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    I'm not a furry, so I'm not going to google a picture. Also 1,100 posts!

    == General ==

    Gardevoir is one of the many new drops into NU, it has proven to be a valuable member of NU. Gardevoir can go offensive with its amazing 125 Special Attack. However, Gardevoir also has an amazing support movepool, including gems like Wish, Heal Bell, and Will-O-Wisp. Gardevoir also has Trace, one of the more rare abilities, which allows it to copy any foe's ability, which is especially useful for Pokemon like Manectric. Gardevoir can use these perks, combined with its very nice Special Defense, to become a very versatile defensive threat in NU.

    All is not good for the Embrace Pokemon though. NU also gained a couple of Dark-types, both of which can trap Gardevoir with Pursuit and are immune to Gardevoir STAB. Gardevoir is also lacking physical bulk, which, when combined with its mediocre speed, makes Gardevoir prime bait for being revenge killed. Gardevoir also has a lot of competition from other Psychic-types in NU, especially Mesprit and Musharna. Overall, Gardevoir is a big new threat in NU, and will continue to have a major effect on the NU metagame.


    == Sets ==

    === Choiced ===
    Gardevoir @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Focus Blast / Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Trick
    - Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball

    Choice Specs Gardevoir hits extremely hard in NU. Although it requires a bit of prediction to avoid being Pursuit trapped or walled, this set is a very useful wallbreaker and cleaner. Psychich and Psyshock both are very good STAB moves, hitting much of the NU metagame very hard. Psyshock hurts many of NU's special walls much harder, while Psychic has higher power overall. Focus Blast hits the many Dark-, Normal- and Steel-types of NU, while Hidden Power Ground is both more accurate and hurts the dual typed Dark-types in NU, such as Drapion. Trick allows Gardevoir to cripple walls in NU. It also hurts a lot of the various Eviolite users in NU, like Piloswine and Misdreavus. Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball both hit very specific threats to Gardevoir. Shadow Ball hits the other Psychic-types in NU, while Thunderbolt can hurt various bulky waters. This set works best by utalizing Gardevoir's fantastic ability and special bulk to find free switches and then bomb something with a boosted attack. It is very important to avoid being trapped by Houndoom; therefore, some prediction is required. Gardevoir can also use a Modest nature to hit even harder, being able to even 2HKO Specially Defensive Alomomola.

    === Support ===
    Gardevoir @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Wish
    - Will-O-Wisp / Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Heal Bell / Protect

    Gardevoir has amazing support movepool to make use of its great special bulk. Psychic prevents this set from being bait for the many set-up sweepers in NU, and still has a bit of sting even without investment. Wish allows Gardevoir to heal itself and its teammates. Will-O-Wisp hurts many of the physical sweepers that attempt to switch into Gardevoir, crippling them for the match. However, Houndoom can use its Flash Fire ability to avoid the burn, so Hidden Power Ground can be used to stop this set from becoming set-up bait for the hell hound. Heal Bell heals any statuses on the team, while Protect allows Gardevoir to receive its own Wishes much easier.

    Gardevoir has a number of lesser options as well. Encore is very useful for stopping Sucker Punch Pokemon in their tracks, and disrupts a number of NU's walls. Pain Split is also usable for a less reliable recovery move, but with the benefit of instant healing.


    === Offensive Calm Mind ===
    Gardevoir @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Substitute / Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power [Ground]

    Gardevoir also makes a very powerful Calm Mind user in NU. While it may not have the bulk of Musharna, or the utility of Mesprit, Gardevoir has much more power than either of the competing Psychic-types in NU. Calm Mind is the crux of this set, allowing Gardevoir to hit as hard as the Specs set, but with the ability to change attacks. It also boosts Gardevoir's already impressive Special Defense. Psychic and Psyshock are both solid options for STAB. On this set, Psychic is slightly more advisible because Gardevoir can set-up to at least +2 against many walls, which neglicates the need to hit them on thier Defense stat. Substitute allows Gardevoir to avoid a revenge kill, and can give it the chance to boost further against weaker special attackers or status users. Shadow Ball allows Gardevoir to win most Calm Mind wars against its fellow Psychic-types. Hidden Power Ground hits the many Dark- and Steel-types in NU that would threaten this set.

    === Dual Screens ===
    Gardevoir @ Light Clay
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    - Memento / Healing Wish
    - Taunt / Psychic / Hidden Power [Ground]

    This set also focuses on support; Gardevoir is one of a few Pokemon that has both screens. Gardevoir also has access to two very useful suicide moves in Memento and Healing Wish. Both of these are very useful for supporting other sweepers. Memento allows Gardevoir to halve the offensive stats of an opposing Pokemon (after the effect of the two screens). While Healing Wish allows Gardevoir to fully heal any sweeper for a second chance. Taunt prevents any form of status or phazing moves from preventing a sure sweep. Psychic is a standard STAB move. Hidden Power Ground allows Gardevoir to lure and seriously maim the main Sucker Punch users in NU, which can really harm a number of sweepers without priority.

    == Other Options ==

    Gardevoir has a fairly substantial movepool full of a lot of gems. Encore, Taunt, Snatch, and Magic Coat all make good disruption moves. Rain Dance, Sunny Day, Healing Wish and Trick Room all support various teams. Hypnosis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Destiny Bond, and Charm can all cripple Pokemon in NU. Grass Knot, Energy Ball, and Signal Beam are all useful for hitting certain Pokemon and coverage.

    Gardevoir can run Choice Scarf very effectively, but has a lot of competition from Mesprit and other common Scarf Pokemon in NU. Colbur Berry allows Gardevoir to lure and beat the various Pursuit users in NU, which can help other Pokemon have a much easier time sweeping, or help a Spin Blocker stay alive. Gardevoir can also run a fully offensive set without a Choice item, or a Sub + three attacks set.


    == Checks & Counters ==

    As mentioned bulky Dark-types really put a damper on Gardevoir. Houndoom, Drapion, and Skuntank all stand out as the best checks that Gardevoir. Houndoom is even immune to Gardevoir's Will-O-Wisp. However, they all need to be wary of Hidden Power Ground or Focus Blast, which can really dent them. Special walls, such as Regice and Lickicky, make great checks to Gardevoir, but fear Focus Blast and boosted Psyshock. Other, more bulky, Psychic-types can usually take on Gardevoir and only fear a stray Shadow Ball or the CM set, which can set-up against many Psychics.

    Offensively, Gardevoir isn't terribly hard to take down; it is weak to U-turn, so a lot of Pokemon can put pressure on Gardevoir to prevent it from getting KO's. Most physical Choice Scarf users carry something that can OHKO Gardevoir. Things like Scarf Emboar, Swellow, and other fast Pokemon can simply revenge Gardevoir.
     
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  2. Dzi

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    Looks good to me, will let other QCs (if they're still alive) to see any problems. ^^
     
  3. Xinc

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    Looks good. Perhaps slash Scarf in Other Options? Scarf Gardevoir isn't half bad.
     
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    The only reason I didn't slash it on the Specs set is because Mesprit does it a bit better with U-turn and all.
     
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    Is Modest worth slashing after Timid on the Specs set? The power increase is really quite amazing:

    252SpAtk Choice Specs Gardevoir (Neutral) Psychic vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Alomomola (+SpDef): 46% - 54% (246 - 289 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO. 3% chance to 2HKO with Leftovers.
    252SpAtk Choice Specs Gardevoir (+SAtk) Psychic vs 252HP/252SpDef Leftovers Alomomola (+SpDef): 50% - 59% (268 - 316 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    Just a for example, lol.
     
  7. The Real Elmo

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    ^ This
    The only reason I would run Timid is if I want to outspeed mons, and even then you're not going to be outspeeding NU's dark types anyways (well, maybe skuntank).
    My vote is for Modest Specs!
     
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    Well, there are a few extra things between Modest and Timid, Adamant Sawk, Modest Misdreavus, Adamant Klinklang, Adamant Kanga, Modest Articuno, Adamant Gabite, Modest Rotom-S/F. Not too many of those are terribly important, but it is a good amount of reasons to keep Timid. I've added it to the set, I may put it in the first slot, but right now I'll keep it as is.
     
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    Okay, Approved.
     
  10. The Real Elmo

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    sounds good to me.
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    looks good

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    Fixed up a couple of coding problems on the page, and edited the OP accordingly. :3
     
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    updated

    {{Header|Mega Gardevoir}}
    {{Tier|BW2 NU}}

    {{Overview|Gardevoir has proven to be a valuable member of NU since its drop into the tier not long before the introduction of Gen 6. It can go offensive with its amazing 125 Special Attack. However, Gardevoir also has an amazing support movepool, including gems like Wish, Heal Bell, and Will-O-Wisp. Gardevoir also has Trace, one of the more rare abilities, which allows it to copy any foe's ability, which is especially useful for Pokemon like Zebstrika. Gardevoir can use these perks, combined with its very nice Special Defense, to become a very versatile defensive threat in NU.

    All is not good for the Embrace Pokemon though. NU also has several prominent Dark-types, most of which can trap Gardevoir with Pursuit and are immune to its STAB. Gardevoir is also lacking physical bulk, which, when combined with its mediocre speed, makes Gardevoir prime bait for being revenge killed. It also has a lot of competition from other Psychic-types in NU, especially Mesprit and Musharna. Overall, Gardevoir is a big new threat in NU, and will continue to have a major effect on the NU metagame.}}

    {{Set|Choiced|
    Gardevoir @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) / Modest nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Focus Blast / Hidden Power Ground
    - Trick
    - Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball}}

    {{Comments|Choice Specs Gardevoir hits extremely hard in NU. Although it requires a bit of prediction to avoid being Pursuit trapped or walled, this set is a very useful wallbreaker and cleaner. Psychic and Psyshock both are very good STAB moves, hitting much of the NU metagame very hard. Psyshock hurts many of NU's special walls much harder, while Psychic has higher power overall. Focus Blast hits the many Dark-, Normal- and Steel-types of NU, while Hidden Power Ground is both more accurate and hurts the dual typed Dark-types in NU, such as Drapion. Trick allows Gardevoir to cripple walls in NU. It also hurts a lot of the various Eviolite users in NU, like Piloswine and Misdreavus. Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball both hit very specific threats to Gardevoir. Shadow Ball hits the other Psychic-types in NU, while Thunderbolt can hurt various bulky waters. This set works best by utilizing Gardevoir's fantastic ability and special bulk to find free switches and then bomb something with a boosted attack. It is very important to avoid being trapped by Houndoom; therefore, some prediction is required. Gardevoir can also use a Modest nature to hit even harder, being able to even 2HKO Specially Defensive Alomomola.}}

    {{Set|Support|Gardevoir @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Wish
    - Will-O-Wisp / Hidden Power Ground
    - Heal Bell / Protect}}

    {{Comments|Gardevoir has amazing support movepool to make use of its great special bulk. Psychic prevents this set from being bait for the many set-up sweepers in NU, and still has a bit of sting even without investment. Wish allows Gardevoir to heal itself and its teammates. Will-O-Wisp hurts many of the physical sweepers that attempt to switch into Gardevoir, crippling them for the match. However, Houndoom can use its Flash Fire ability to avoid the burn, so Hidden Power Ground can be used to stop this set from becoming set-up bait for the hell hound. Heal Bell heals any statuses on the team, while Protect allows Gardevoir to receive its own Wishes much easier.

    Gardevoir has a number of lesser options as well. Encore is very useful for stopping Sucker Punch Pokemon in their tracks, and disrupts a number of NU's walls. Pain Split is also usable for a less reliable recovery move, but with the benefit of instant healing.}}

    {{Set|Offensive Calm Mind|
    Gardevoir @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Substitute / Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power Ground}}

    {{Comments|Gardevoir also makes a very powerful Calm Mind user in NU. While it may not have the bulk of Musharna, or the utility of Mesprit, Gardevoir has much more power than either of the competing Psychic-types in NU. Calm Mind is the crux of this set, allowing Gardevoir to hit as hard as the Specs set, but with the ability to change attacks. It also boosts Gardevoir's already impressive Special Defense. Psychic and Psyshock are both solid options for STAB. On this set, Psychic is slightly more advisible because Gardevoir can set-up to at least +2 against many walls, which neglicates the need to hit them on thier Defense stat. Substitute allows Gardevoir to avoid a revenge kill, and can give it the chance to boost further against weaker special attackers or status users. Shadow Ball allows Gardevoir to win most Calm Mind wars against its fellow Psychic-types. Hidden Power Ground hits the many Dark- and Steel-types in NU that would threaten this set.}}

    {{Set|Dual Screens|
    Gardevoir @ Light Clay
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Reflect
    - Light Screen
    - Memento / Healing Wish
    - Taunt / Psychic / Hidden Power Ground}}

    {{Comments|This set also focuses on support; Gardevoir is one of a few Pokemon that has both screens. Gardevoir also has access to two very useful suicide moves in Memento and Healing Wish. Both of these are very useful for supporting other sweepers. Memento allows Gardevoir to halve the offensive stats of an opposing Pokemon (after the effect of the two screens). While Healing Wish allows Gardevoir to fully heal any sweeper for a second chance. Taunt prevents any form of status or phazing moves from preventing a sure sweep. Psychic is a standard STAB move. Hidden Power Ground allows Gardevoir to lure and seriously maim the main Sucker Punch users in NU, which can really harm a number of sweepers without priority.}}

    {{Options|Gardevoir has a fairly substantial movepool full of a lot of gems. Encore, Taunt, Snatch, and Magic Coat all make good disruption moves. Rain Dance, Sunny Day, Healing Wish and Trick Room all support various teams. Hypnosis, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Destiny Bond, and Charm can all cripple Pokemon in NU. Grass Knot, Energy Ball, and Signal Beam are all useful for hitting certain Pokemon and coverage.

    Gardevoir can run Choice Scarf very effectively, but has a lot of competition from Mesprit and other common Scarf Pokemon in NU. Colbur Berry allows Gardevoir to lure and beat the various Pursuit users in NU, which can help other Pokemon have a much easier time sweeping, or help a Spin Blocker stay alive. Gardevoir can also run a fully offensive set without a Choice item, or a Sub + three attacks set.}}

    {{Checks|As mentioned beforehand, bulky Dark-types really put a damper on Gardevoir. Houndoom, Drapion, and Skuntank all stand out as the best checks to Gardevoir. Houndoom is even immune to Gardevoir's Will-O-Wisp. However, they all need to be wary of Hidden Power Ground or Focus Blast, which can really dent them. Special walls, such as Regice and Lickicky, make great checks to Gardevoir, but fear Focus Blast and boosted Psyshock. Other, more bulky, Psychic-types can usually take on Gardevoir and only fear a stray Shadow Ball or the CM set, which can set-up against many Psychics.

    Offensively, Gardevoir isn't terribly hard to take down; it is weak to U-turn, so a lot of Pokemon can put pressure on Gardevoir to prevent it from getting KO's. Most physical Choice Scarf users carry something that can OHKO Gardevoir. Things like Scarf Emboar, Swellow, and other fast Pokemon can simply revenge Gardevoir.}}

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