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Gen 5 NU - the last few.

Discussion in 'Gen 5 NU Analyses' started by Spoovo The Pirate, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Hey guys. As you can likely tell, Gen 5 NU is all but complete in terms of analyses. The only remaining pokemon that haven't been analysed are NFE (!)

    Here is a list of said NFEs (in order of importance, as based on the Wanted Analyses list):

    Combusken
    Dragonair
    Natu
    Tentacool
    Murkrow
    Togetic
    Sneasel
    Monferno
    Lairon
    Pineco
    Lampent
    Staryu
    Clamperl
    Seadra
    Dwebble
    Wynaut
    Sandshrew
    Scraggy
    Bronzor
    Whirlipede
    Ivysaur
    Hippopotas
    Vigoroth
    Duskull
    Carvanha
    Marshtomp
    Krokorok
    Pupitar

    Now, the reason for this thread is to decide which of these pokemon actually require analyses. Some of them will obviously just play like their higher tiered, evolved counterparts (Hippopotas, Marshtomp and Ivysaur for examples), so I reckon a full analysis for them would not be necessary.

    What're your guys' thoughts?
     
  2. The Real Elmo

    The Real Elmo Caterpie hungers...

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    Here's my 2 cents on the remaining mons

    Definately Wanted:
    Combusken - Speed Boost is amazing
    Dragonair - Defensive set w/ Marvel Scale, and one of the NU DD'ers
    Natu - Magic Bounce is invaluable
    Murkrow - Prankster set and Perish Trapper
    Lairon - Head Smash, and superb defense stat with evio
    Togetic - another SpDef Cleric
    Sneasel - Fast and Decently strong revenge killer
    Hippopotas - Defensive wall/phaser with reliable recovery
    Clamperl - TR Sweeper or Shell Smasher
    Dwebble - Mini Crustle
    Wynaut - TRAPPER
    Scraggy - TOPAH makes him work, so i'll give a writeup a shot
    Whirlipede - More Hazards
    Vigoroth - Bulk Up God, also a decent stallbreaker with a Taunt+Toxic set
    Krokorok - Moxie

    Crappy Mons:
    Tentacool - can work as a mini-tentacruel, but suffers from horrid Def and no reliable recovery
    Monferno - Frankly, there are better fighting types in NU that can actully get around bulky waters.
    Pineco - Hazards + Rapid spin, but there are honestly better setters that don't get auto-set up on.
    Lampent - Cool typing, but that's about as far as it goes
    Staryu - Spinner, but there are better ones
    Seadra - Can be a defensive wall or a rain sweeper, but there are better mons for these roles
    Sandshrew - Spinner, but there are better ones
    Bronzor - No recovery sucks
    Ivysaur - Can be a defensive sun sweeper with growth, but there are stronger mons for the job
    Duskull - Weak, so weak ;_;
    Carvanha - Speed Boost, but dies to like a water gun
    Marshtomp - bulky water with no recovery. NU has better mons of the same type
    Pupitar - Interestingly typed DD'er, but walled by like every NU mon, and cannot set up on most of the tier.
     
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  3. Incon

    Incon I feel incapable of seeing the end.

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    Elmo's list looks pretty good. I would argue that Lampent deserves a write-up. It has a great typing, awesome ability in Flash Fire, and decent power behind a great dual STAB. It runs a pretty decent Sub Split set allowing it to put a dent in the opposing team. It's not the best mon, but its more viable than Hippopotas imo.
     
  4. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Seems fair to me. Well, it looks like PokeMMO isn't gonna be doing anything for a little while, so if I can get another chapter of my fanfiction uploaded sometime soon, I'll get started on some of this. :3

    (Because my life is that cool. xD)
     
  5. Angel Flonne

    Angel Flonne macaron

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    Actually a few of the ones Elmo left out are pretty legit (if you want to be cool). No harm writing more, anyway. Idk, a lot of these work for NEU #NEURevival I'm sure there are lot of hipsters like me who use weird Pokemon, and I don't find most of them on smogon and have to construct sets on my own.

    For example, Duskull has a good 90 base defense/SDef but a terrible HP, and even when I'm full HP and I use it on like, Lickilicky, it does a lot. Like, 50%.

    But if you don't want to write for crappy Pokemon, that's fine too.
     
  6. Liarliarpantsonfire

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    I think Slowpoke deserves an analysis just for walling Banded Sawk ._. It even walls Band Emboar to an extent, as even if it uses Wild Charge you can switch back out to get Regenerator and send in a Ground/Grass-type.

    I realize that Alomomola outclasses it mostly, but Slack Off means you don't need two slots for Wish + Protect allowing you to run moves like Thunder Wave (which Momo doesn't have) or Light Screen. Also you can use what is arguably the weakest Flamethrower in the game to hit Grass types.
     
  7. Sakuya Izayoi

    Sakuya Izayoi love to hate

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    I'll do Clamperl and Scraggy then
     
  8. Epikhairz

    Epikhairz Delta Stream

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    I'll take care of Dragonair when I have time :3