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[Final] Clamperl

Discussion in 'Gen 5 NU Analyses' started by Sakuya Izayoi, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. Sakuya Izayoi

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    While looking at its mediocre stats, it is really hard why Clamperl should even be used in NU in the first place. Its horid 35/85/55 defense can only be salvaged by Eviolite to an extent, and its horrible 64/74 Attack stats makes it inferior to Samurott and Simipour in every possible way. However, this is far from the truth. Its signature item DeepSeaTooth boosts Clamperl's mediocre Special Attack to a jaw-breaking 494 Special Attack. If that stat is not enough to scare you, Clamperl also has Shell Smash, which doubles its Attack, Special Attack and Speed by 2 overwhelming stages, giving Clamperl a 989 Special Attack and 358 Speed stat to abuse and sweep unprepared teams. Underestimate this monster at your own peril.

    == King Pearl ==
    Clamperl (M) @ DeepSeaTooth
    Trait: Rattled
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Shell Smash
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Grass] / Hidden Power [Fire]

    Set Comments:
    Clamperl only has 1 set, and it pulls it off excellently. Shell Smash is the crux of the set, boosting Clamperl's already devastating 494 Special Attack stat (Provided it equips its signature item DeepSeaTooth) to a sky-high 989 Special Attack after a single boost! Surf is Clamperl's strongest STAB move, which wipes away anything not resisting it. Ice Beam freezes all of the Grass-types that resist it, such as Meganium and Vileplume, as well as the dragons such as Altaria and Fraxure. Hidden Power [Grass] is the preferred choice in the last moveslot as it allows it to deal with its only Water-type mates such as Samurott and Simipour, but Hidden Power [Fire] can be used to hit Shednja if you are that deathly scared of it walling your precious pearl.

    Firstly, don't bother changing your item to Eviolite. DeepSeaTooth is really the only reason why you are even using Clamperl in the first place, as you are making it a fearsome wallbreaker by just equipping it with DeepSeaTooth. Max Special Attack and Speed investment is so that Clamperl can smash pass walls with its boosted Special attack and also outrun pokemon. Due to Clamperl's frailness, it badly requires Dual Screen and/or Memento support from Gardevoir, making it an excellent partner to pair up with. Entry Hazards are just as important to help Clamperl sweep, securing notable 1HKOs. Rattled is the preferred ability of choice as it allows Clamperl to get off a speed boost, which can be crucial against faster pokemon. Shell Armor doesn't do much when Clamperl is already so frail that even non critical-hits will easily KO Clamperl.

    == Other Options ==
    Clamperl can also be a devastating Trick Room sweeper, working as a special-based Marowak. A Quiet Nature with 252HP / 252 SAtk / 4SDef EV spread will do well for a Trick Room sweeper. Clamperl can also utilise its other signature item, DeepSeaScale to work as a Special Wall, but Regice arguably pulls it off better due to being able to equip Leftovers for recovery.

    == Checks and Counters ==
    Clamperl has 0 counters in the tier, due to its massive Special Attack stat. That being said, Regice can often switch in without Stealth Rock on the field and proceed to zap the poor pearl with Thunderbolt. Scarfed pokemon such as Zebstrika can outrun Clamperl due to its very low base 32 Speed stat and proceed to destroy it with its STAB thunderbolt or scout with Volt Switch. Priority is also a good way to get rid of Clamperl, with Mach Punch from Gurdurr and Sucker Punch from Skuntank dealing huge amounts of damage to Clamperl. Focus Sash Kadabra can switch in after Clamperl has claimed a kill and proceed to beat it with Psychic after it breaks Kadabra's sash.
     
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  2. The Real Elmo

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    This could probably be separated into two sentences. One stating the DS/Mem support, and another with Gardevoir as an example (since there are multiple memento users).
    Right now it sounds like Gardevoir is the one and only partner for it :3

    Other than that this looks like a pretty decent writeup.
    reword and lets get this onto the wiki!
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  3. Alfalfa

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    The thing is, Clamperl is not even very fast, and it is too easily revenge killed. It is one of those sweepers that can sweep "under the right conditions". Remove all priority users - remove Kanghaskan, Gurdurr, hell, even Piloswine, whose Ice Shard is resisted by Clamperl - remove them all. Secondly, remove anything faster, like Scarf Sawk and whatnot. It is way too situational of a sweeper - sure, it has ridiculous power, but why not use sweepers like Gorebyss, Charizard, Tauros, Sawk, Misdreavus, Houndoom, and Scyther (not sure if it is still NU, but you get the point), which are much bulkier, and do not require massive support from all five of their teammates to sweep?
     
  4. The Real Elmo

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    Alfalfa,
    The point of these writeup threads is to discuss the most viable sets for pokemon, not to suggest other pokemon to use instead of it.
    Additionally, Some people may just want to try to win with their favorites, or just a theme pokemon. THAT MINDSET is what keeps tiers exciting and fun, with players constantly trying out new innovative, creative, and sometimes plain odd sets and pokemon.

    So please, in the future, keep in mind that you are trying to improve the write up if the pokemon is viable or has a niche in the tier (which clamperl does). ^_^

    Also, I don't see how clamperl needs all 5 teammates to support it. Just one should suffice. In the same style as BD Linoone, Gardevoir can come in, dual screen, and memento giving an opportunity for the clam to set up and sweep with insane stats (possibly even shell smash twice! which removes the worry about random scarfers)
     
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    252 Atk Sawk Close Combat vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Clamperl: 145-172 (68.39 - 81.13%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252 Atk Primeape Close Combat vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Clamperl: 129-153 (60.84 - 72.16%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ SpA Gardevoir Thunderbolt vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Clamperl: 238-282 (112.26 - 133.01%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252 SpA Charizard Hidden Power Grass vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Clamperl: 146-174 (68.86 - 82.07%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    All of these calcs take -1 and screens into account.

    Those are 4 of the most common revenge killers in NU. Why the hell would I use Clamperl if all four of these pokemon with a Choice Scarf outspeed and hammer Clamperl after using a Shell Smash? So if we are discussing "the most viable sets" for each Pokemon in NU, let's use Beedrill instead of Roselia or Garbodor; Farfetch'd over Fearow or Dodrio; and Voltorb over Electrode! And don't say they are all shit, because Clamperl is shit as well with the speed and bulk of a wet paper bag.

    And getting two Shell Smashes in leaves you vulnerable to Kanghaskan, Gurdurr, and other priority users.

    252+ Atk Silk Scarf Kangaskhan Fake Out + Sucker Punch vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Clamperl: 113-134 (53.3 - 63.19%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ Atk Skuntank Sucker Punch vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Clamperl: 88-105 (41.5 - 49.52%) -- 82.03% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

    While these calcs may seem to go against me because Clamperl can live a hit after -1 and screens, why the hell would you use something that requires such strict conditions to sweep.....

    Against Clamperl without screens, the 4 Choice Scarf users all OHKO Clamperl, Primeape after Stealth Rock. Same with Kangaskhan and Skuntank + Stealth Rock.
     
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  6. Spoovo The Pirate

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    Alf, the point is that Clamperl has a niche in NU, and thus deserves an analysis. Sure, it's a small niche, and Clamperl is all but inviable, but ignoring it would be foolish when we're this close to finishing the tier.

    Sure, Mightyena's pretty much inviable in NU, but it also deserves an analysis. Luvdisc is just about useless, as is Farfetch'd, Spinda, and there's a whole heap of terrible pokemon, but they still deserve their write-up if they have something to offer.
     
  7. Incognito

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    Sorry man, but you put +1, not -1.

    Impressively, this thing can OHKO 252 Health 252 Sp Def Munchlax after a smash.
     
  8. Sakuya Izayoi

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    That is because he was assuming Dual Screens were in play at that time.
     
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    {{Header}}
    {{Tier|BW2 NU}}

    {{Overview|While looking at its mediocre stats, it is really hard why Clamperl should even be used in NU in the first place. Its horid 35/85/55 defense can only be salvaged by Eviolite to an extent, and its horrible 64/74 Attack stats makes it inferior to Samurott and Simipour in every possible way. However, this is far from the truth. Its signature item DeepSeaTooth boosts Clamperl's mediocre Special Attack to a jaw-breaking 494 Special Attack. If that stat is not enough to scare you, Clamperl also has Shell Smash, which doubles its Attack, Special Attack and Speed by 2 overwhelming stages, giving Clamperl a 989 Special Attack and 358 Speed stat to abuse and sweep unprepared teams. Underestimate this monster at your own peril.}}

    {{Set|King Pearl|
    Clamperl @ DeepSeaTooth
    Trait: Rattled
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Shell Smash
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Fire}}

    {{Comments|Clamperl only has one set, and it pulls it off excellently. Shell Smash is the crux of the set, boosting Clamperl's already devastating 494 Special Attack stat (Provided it equips its signature item DeepSeaTooth) to a sky-high 989 Special Attack after a single boost! Surf is Clamperl's strongest STAB move, which wipes away anything not resisting it. Ice Beam freezes all of the Grass-types that resist it, such as Meganium and Vileplume, as well as the dragons such as Altaria and Fraxure. Hidden Power [Grass] is the preferred choice in the last moveslot as it allows it to deal with its only Water-type mates such as Samurott and Simipour, but Hidden Power [Fire] can be used to hit Shednja if you are that deathly scared of it walling your precious pearl.

    Firstly, don't bother changing your item to Eviolite. DeepSeaTooth is really the only reason why you are even using Clamperl in the first place, as you are making it a fearsome wallbreaker by just equipping it with DeepSeaTooth. Max Special Attack and Speed investment is so that Clamperl can smash pass walls with its boosted Special attack and also outrun pokemon. Due to Clamperl's frailty, it badly requires Dual Screen and/or Memento support, with Gardevoir being an excellent choice for a setting partner. Entry Hazards are just as important to help Clamperl sweep, securing notable 1HKOs. Rattled is the preferred ability of choice as it allows Clamperl to get off a speed boost, which can be crucial against faster pokemon. Shell Armor doesn't do much when Clamperl is already so frail that even non critical-hits will easily KO Clamperl.}}

    {{Options|Clamperl can also be a devastating Trick Room sweeper, working as a special-based Marowak. A Quiet Nature with 252HP / 252 SAtk / 4SDef EV spread will do well for a Trick Room sweeper. Clamperl can also utilise its other signature item, DeepSeaScale to work as a Special Wall, but Regice and similar arguably pull it off better due to being able to equip Leftovers for recovery.}}

    {{Checks|Clamperl has no true counters in the tier, due to its massive Special Attack stat. That being said, Regice can often switch in without Stealth Rock on the field and proceed to zap the poor pearl with Thunderbolt. Scarfed pokemon such as Zebstrika can outrun Clamperl due to its very low base 32 Speed stat and proceed to destroy it with its STAB thunderbolt or scout with Volt Switch. Priority is also a good way to get rid of Clamperl, with Mach Punch from Gurdurr and Sucker Punch from Skuntank dealing huge amounts of damage to Clamperl. Focus Sash Kadabra can switch in after Clamperl has claimed a kill and proceed to beat it with Psychic after it breaks Kadabra's sash.}}

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