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[Final] Arceus-Steel

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Ubers Analyses' started by Dr. Doom, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

    Jan 1, 2012
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  2. puregenius

    puregenius :<

    Nov 19, 2011
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    the support set u posted is really really bad
    sure it can stops things from setting up, but it cannot threaten anything
    stealth rock is just bad on most arceus formes as it limits what it can do
    the set is also complete hazard bait, which is bad news for any wall in bw2 (eg lugia who hardly saw any use among good players because of this)

    wow is mandatory on support steelceus so u can actually do something except roar away threats
    it also means hazard stackers cannot get in scot-free as a burn compromises their ability to wall other things

    so changes should be sr -> wow

    btw the reason perish is good is not because it can stop bp chains, although it is a nice perk, but because it can stop last mon sweepers for stall and acts as a win condition, so u might want to change that in the description


    sd set looks good

    sub doesnt really deserve a mention on cm set, as it is already immune to toxic, which is the main reason people would run sub on cm arceus