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[Inverted Battle] Deoxys-N Inverse Suspect Discussion

Discussion in 'Gen 6 Side Metagames' started by sulcata, Nov 11, 2013.

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  1. sulcata

    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    Discuss the possibility of banning Deoxys-N from the Inverted Battle metagame.

    Post intelligently based off of experience in the tier. Posts based off theorymon risk forum infractions.

    Attempt to find the checks and counters (or lack thereof) for Deoxys-N as well as its impact and power in the metagame. Do not simply say "it's broken" or "it's not broken". Back up your arguments on why you think it should be banned or not.

    If a consensus is reached, the result will likely be implemented in the metagame. Happy suspecting.
     
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    Well, counters to Deoxys are few and far between, mainly only Chansey. Others do exist, as Assault Vest Conkeldurr does exist and can switch on even Dark Pulse and KO with Drain Punch or Mach Punch, though any normal type shits on it. Ironically, Tyranitar's probably the best candidate that's useful outside of being a pink blob since it's sheer bulk with an Assault Vest lets it survive even Psycho Boost in Sand and has a very slight chance of tanking the second, although you can't trap it anymore so you have to pray they want to stay in to eat the Superpower. Poison types would be an option if Superpower didn't just blow them away, and even fighting types are just weak to rocks now plus Deoxys still has that Dark Pulse.

    Plus I'm pretty sure any team lacking Chansey or that has an easily removed scarf pokemon can probably be swept by NP Deoxys. It causes switches regardless and kills everything in its way with Dark Pulse/Psycho Boost/Superpower so you might as well tack the move on for a pinpoint Psycho Boost nuke.

    If it's not obvious you should ban the thing.

    Ttar calc: 252 SpAtk Life Orb Deoxys-N (+SpAtk) Psycho Boost vs 252 HP/252 +1 SpDef Tyranitar (+SpDef) : 57.92% - 68.32%

    +1 imitates assault vest and this is in sand. Doesn't make it any less broken but the bulk is pretty amazing.

    EDIT: Oh, it is countered by Porygon2(if lacking NP) as well as Chansey, by extension Blissey. Pretty much any normal type that can live Psycho Boost twice and has reliable recovery can pretty much stand up to Deoxys, but I don't want to run 3 extremely specific normals or Chansey on my team and make sure all 3 stay healthy throughout the match to beat it when there are better pokemon to run.
     
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  3. sulcata

    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    Executive decision to ban.
     
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