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ORAS Overused Wanted Analysis Thread

Discussion in 'OU Analyses' started by Finchinator, Mar 29, 2014.

  1. trc

    trc Active Member

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    I'm willing to do whatever is required of me for the analyses here. I'm fine with leading if no one else wants to, though I suspect this won't be the case ;)
     
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  2. trc

    trc Active Member

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    Apologies for double posting, but we do need a revamp on the Pokemon subject to analyses. I'll just categorise them quickly, feel free to discuss my choices and I'll justify them if you ask.

    Pokemon currently receiving analyses that should receive analyses:
    • Absol
    • Aegislash (may be banned)
    • Alakazam
    • Amoonguss
    • Azumarill
    • Bisharp
    • Blastoise
    • Blissey
    • Breloom
    • Celebi
    • Chandelure
    • Chansey
    • Charizard
    • Chesnaught
    • Clefable
    • Conkeldurr
    • Crawdaunt
    • Cresselia
    • Diggersby
    • Dragonite
    • Espeon
    • Excadrill
    • Ferrothorn
    • Garchomp
    • Gardevoir
    • Gastrodon
    • Gengar
    • Gliscor
    • Gothitelle
    • Gorebyss
    • Gyarados
    • Heatran
    • Heracross
    • Hippowdon
    • Houndoom
    • Hydreigon
    • Infernape
    • Kabutops
    • Keldeo
    • Kingdra
    • Klefki
    • Kyurem-B
    • Landorus
    • Lucario
    • Landorus-T
    • Latias
    • Latios
    • Magnezone
    • Mamoswine
    • Manaphy
    • Mandibuzz
    • Manectric
    • Mantine
    • Mawile (may be banned)
    • Medicham
    • Mew
    • Omastar
    • Pinsir
    • Politoed
    • Quagsire
    • Rhyperior
    • Rotom-W
    • Sableye
    • Scizor
    • Scolipede
    • Skarmory
    • Shuckle
    • Slowbro
    • Slowking
    • Smeargle
    • Starmie
    • Suicune
    • Sylveon
    • Talonflame
    • Tangrowth
    • Tentacruel
    • Thundurus
    • Thundurus-T
    • Togekiss
    • Tornadus
    • Tornadus-T
    • Tyranitar
    • Venomoth
    • Venusaur
    • Victini
    • Weavile
    • Zapdos
    Pokemon currently not receiving analyses that should receive analyses:
    • Aerodactyl
    • Aggron
    • Alomomola
    • Ampharos
    • Azelf
    • Empoleon
    • Entei
    • Exploud
    • Froslass
    • Goodra
    • Haxorus
    • Noivern
    • Porygon2
    • Rotom-H
    • Terrakion (I sincerely hope this was just an oversight)
    • Volcarona
    • Wobbuffet
    Pokemon that may be debatable but definitely need an analysis after the Aegislash (and possibly Mawile) bans:
    • Bronzong
    • Doublade
    • Hawlucha
    • Jirachi
    • Mienshao
    Somewhat viable Pokemon that should not receive an analysis due to being choices too niche to warrant their recommendation, yet are (again, somewhat) usable in high-level play:
    • Abomasnow
    • Diancie
    • Dugtrio
    • Forretress
    • Gastrodon
    • Gourgiest-Small
    • Granbull
    • Ludicolo
    • Ninetales (and Sun itself, but really really bad)
    • Reuniclus
    • Salamence (honestly this thing is completely unviable with Mawile in the meta but still very bad even with it gone)
    • Seismitoad
    • Snorlax
    • Torterra
    • Toxicroak
    • Umbreon
    • Whimsicott
    • Zygarde
    Please ask me if you want to know the set that makes a certain otherwise questionable Pokemon viable, I'll be happy to answer.

    Fuzzy edit: Fixed your list's BBCode
     
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  3. Nog

    Nog Fuck Curselax

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    I'm chill with leading if people would like me to over Rohail, otherwise congrats to him. I too have been a bit slackin so I'll step up my game and get back to doing my job here.
     
  4. Rohail

    Rohail Active Member

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    Hi, I am still interested in being QC as well as being the leader of the team if the higher auth chooses me :] If I were to become QC leader, I'd like @TRC to co-lead with me since I will be a bit busy with school starting and he's the next most active and dedicated person on the team (he also has a lot of experience with QC since he's also on the Smogon team :o).

    Anyway, I agree with TRC's list for the most part, I just have a concern with Granbull receiving an analysis. There is very little reason to use Granbull over Landorus-T in the post-Aegi metagame. Landorus-T has higher bulk, Speed, AND Attack, as well as access to support/momentum moves like U-turn, Knock Off, and Stealth Rock, all of which Granbull lacks. Furthermore, Landorus-T is much more unpredictable and versatile than Granbull, since it can be a bulky pivot, Scarfer, or sweeper with moves like SD and Rock Polish. The only thing that Granbull has over Land-T is the ability to actually hurt Mega Heracross while also checking Mega Gyarados much better. But, Landorus-T has the advantage of checking sand, Talonflame, and pretty much every physical attacker barring MHera and MGyarados MUCH better than Granbull ever could. All-in-all, I think that Granbull is almost completely outclassed by Landorus-T in its role amongst other physically bulky Pokemon like Rotom-W and Gliscor, which all goes against it getting an analysis.
     
  5. trc

    trc Active Member

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    I would love to @Rohail :)
    Regarding Granbull, that was literally just an oversight on my part, it was meant to be in the final section, I don't know why I put it where it is but that wasn't my intention, so I'll just edit my post. Thanks :]
     
  6. Enei

    Enei WAFSTB

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    Reserving Skarmory :]
     
  7. Finchinator

    Finchinator IT’S FINK DUMBASS

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    I'll take Medicham
     
  8. AmourShipper

    AmourShipper meh i'm bored

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    I'll have Goodra if that's okay. I want Scolipede too.
     
  9. Noog

    Noog So much potential...

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    I'd like to reserve Kyurem-B.
     
  10. MewtwoHidden

    MewtwoHidden My Hax Makes Me Famous

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    I'd like to resign from QC because I'm strapped for time lately. I'll let anybody who wants to claim one of my Analyses to finish them and have them.
     
  11. sulcata

    sulcata stéphane curry best waifu Forum Moderator Server Administrator Forum Moderator Server Administrator

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    Could someone update the OP so we can see what is/isn't reserved easily?
     
  12. Dr. Doom

    Dr. Doom Long time hater of stall

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    Reserving Metagross
     
  13. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    Hai people. I'ma put some life into this section, and reserve Heracross. Also Skarmory too, if @Enei is OK with that?
     
  14. Oh So Penspin

    Oh So Penspin Hail RNGesus, our Lord and Saviour!

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    Seconding this, could you update this please so people know what still needs to be done?
     
  15. Joyverse

    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Analysis HYPE!
    With people taking an interest in the analyses section. I too, wish to do one (for now) before SuMo comes out. Reserving Metagross cause Dr.Doom be ded and he posted last year.
     
  16. Joyverse

    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    Will be switching Metagross from WIP to Skeleton soon (I have some minor wording edits so..).
    A new QC for OU is definitely needed rn. Also I see that GP is alive so yeah QC plz :)
    Reserving Volcarona as well.
     
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  17. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    The analysis subforum used to be pretty popular, but it just fell like a stone about a year ago. I guess people moved on to Smogon or something. :(
     
  18. Joyverse

    Joyverse Back for a blast!

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    I am all in to make analyses rise again and cleanup stuff. It has to be able to compete with PS' dex. I'd rather not see smogon monopolize this through Gen7. @RedJoker25 your decision on this is final though, hence tagging.
     
  19. Spoovo The Pirate

    Spoovo The Pirate Meep! Article Contributor Article Contributor

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    I'd also love to see the analyses section brought back to life. As for that list, both Starmie and Weavile are fairly easy. Could probably knock them up in no time if no one else wants them?
     
  20. RedJoker25

    RedJoker25 Resident Lurker Server Moderator Article Contributor Server Moderator Article Contributor

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    I'm willing to do what I can to help meaning mostly grammar / moving things since I don't follow competitive battling outside of reading what people write in analyses while grammar checking. Regarding QC, I'm not sure there are enough people wanting to help with analyses to have designated checkers for now; there's maybe 4 or 5 people total who have posted in OU in the past month with a few more in Ubers.

    Regarding the existing thread lists, I'll deal with the Uber ones when I have more reliable internet in a couple of days. As for the remove / unlock threads, did you mean remove all of them or were there ones you wanted to post in?
     
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  21. RedJoker25

    RedJoker25 Resident Lurker Server Moderator Article Contributor Server Moderator Article Contributor

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    The following thread changes have been made:

    Lando-I locked on account of ban from OU.
    Greninja (TRC) deleted on account of ban from OU and Spoovo's thread.
    Aegislash deleted on account of ban from OU and existing thread in Ubers (though dated).
    Genesect deleted on account of ban from OU and existing thread in Ubers.
    Mawile deleted for being about Mega, which is banned, and for apparently being plagiarized.

    Mega TTar deleted on account of the more general purpose TTar thread.
    Quagsire / Galvantula / Latias unlocked.
    Venusaur (Spoovo) locked because it was originally dropped and picked up by Alfalfa, evidently with minor changes to be made.
    Venusaur (Alfalfa) remains unlocked even though it was dropped for needing an update.

    Regarding Venu, Quag, Latias and Galv: I left these in case the information is relevant for someone wanting to update / redo their analyses. If something's just flat-out unviable / bad, the three of you (or whoever wants to be on clean up crew) can post in the respective thread and I'll lock / delete it then.

    I've also decided to leave Greninja (spoovo) / Lando-I / Deo-S just locked for now. I'm debating on if it'd be worth it to move them to Ubers if they need complete overhauls anyway. I'll read them more thoroughly later to decide (unless someone else wants to).
     
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