Welcome to the amended suspect discussion for Sand. The previously opened Hippowdon suspect will be closed in light of this new suspect, which will aim to address the issue of sand in the metagame more effectively and in a way that better suits the opinions of the player base. We apologise for the previous suspect and having to re-do this one, but hopefully this one should end in something the playerbase is happier with. This suspect shall take a slightly non-standard form. This suspect is to discuss the impact of Sand on the metagame, most prominently the impact of Sand Rush abusers (Stoutland and Sandslash). As such, as a poster you should decide on one of the following options, that you think would best deal with this problem in the metagame (if you believe it is a problem at all). The options are; Ban Hippowdon Ban Sand Stream Ban Sand Rush Ban Stoutland Ban Smooth Rock Do Nothing Please choose an option or two and make it clear which option(s) you think is(are) best. Back up your posts with knowledge and experience. Do not blind theorymon or simply post calcs as your entire argument, but by all means use calcs to support an argument. If you wish you may argue why you think one of more of the options will not deal with the problem of Sand (should you think it is a problem).