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[POWC] Pokemon Online World Cup 2016 [Week 2]

Discussion in 'Official Tournaments' started by Draciel, Apr 4, 2016.

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    who even plays lu
     
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    Casparov This is supposed to be a Medal!

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    good to see Amoonguss is 0-2 in a tier it isn't allowed in.
     
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  5. Imperitur

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    Won vs Rewer,gg
     
  6. Nails

    Nails @red panda

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    beat fafus 2-1 in a shockingly clean rby set
     
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    Won vs Vileman 2-0, ggs.
     
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    won gg
     
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  10. Always!

    Always! :)

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    won vs Pork Chop Man, gg
     
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  12. theurbandear

    theurbandear Active Member

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    Aight, so here is the situation. Golden Gyara and fapking have now played 3 RBY games.

    G1 - fapking booms on last mon.
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen1ou-148592
    G2 - fapking wins
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen1ou-148688
    G3 - Golden Gyara wins
    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen1ou-148748

    I asked @Isa about the self-KO clause, and he was unsure, so I think we might need a ruling from @Draciel here. Anyway, if the self-KO clause is in effect, GG should have won G1, and he wins the series 2-1. If the clause is not in effect, G1 is a draw and the series stands at 1-1. If that is the case, both players have agreed to play tomorrow at 11 AM US EST.

    I just think "what the cart does" doesn't matter for a rule that essentially boils down to a matter of disqualification. Like I said above, what the cartridge says is inconsequential if it's a matter of the player's agency conflicting with a tour referee's ruleset. For instance, I could play an entire battle in a tournament and keep a fourth move on one of my mons hidden. At the last second, I reveal I had Fissure. I technically beat my opponent. The cartridge says I win. The tournament referee says I lose because of a OHKO clause. I had agency to use that move according to the cartridge, but I'm disqualified according to the tournament rules.

    Same situation. I play an entire battle in a tournament until it's just one on one. I explode. I "draw." The cartridge says my opponent loses. But the tournament referee can just say my opponent wins because of Self-KO clause. I have agency to use that move according to the cartridge, but I can be disqualified according to the tournament rules. The cartridge says that it's okay, a tournament host says it isn't.

    Self-KO clause, if you want to use it, has nothing to do with mechanics, it doesn't alter mechanics, and ultimately, it doesn't matter what the cartridge says. Species clause, Evasion clause, OHKO clause, and non-mechanical Sleep and Freeze clauses all operate under the same principle.
     
  13. Maestro Arena

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    Isa Well-Known Tauros

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    [00:17] &Isa: do you
    [00:17] &Isa: want me to add smth in particular to that post
    [00:17] +theurbandear: uhh, what are your thoughts on self ko
    [00:17] +theurbandear: clause
    [00:17] &Isa: eh
    [00:17] &Isa: boomer should lose imo
    [00:17] &Isa: ties are bad
    [00:18] +theurbandear: aight, then post your thoughts as tier leader plz
    [00:18] +theurbandear: :D
     
  15. Texas Cloverleaf

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    [6:26:41 PM] Rui: ok guys
    [6:26:57 PM] Rui: so technically i already beat scimjara…but he wants to rematch
    [6:27:09 PM] Rui: i bumped into him on the ladder and asked him if he wants to play as powc and he said ok
    [6:27:19 PM] Rui: then he pm’d me after saying it doesnt count
    [6:27:39 PM] Texas: if you have the log of him agreeing
    [6:27:44 PM] Texas: then it counts
    [6:27:47 PM] Rui: i do…he was on an alt tho
    [6:27:54 PM] Rui: so i can’t really prove it

    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-355545305


    Scimjara being shady af
     
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    FinchScor won gg

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  18. Aurist

    Aurist I do not jump for joy. I frolic in doubt.

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    you are literally the only player i wasnt talking about but ok

    also ppl need to stop running LU teams without hazard control

    and this is what im talking about, players that use OU mons and keep Steelix in on Rotom-H lmao
     
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  19. Scimjara

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    You guys are being really petty and stupid. we already agreed to play on saturday. we were fucking around and kept facing each other on the ladder and went back and forth wether we should play the game now or later but settled on terms that we are going to play saturday regardless. real game is going down in 2o minutes. grow up children
     
  20. Texas Cloverleaf

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    "fucking around on the ladder"

    >★Osgoode:is this our powc match?
    >★sleepno: sure idc
    >★sleepno: and we can disclose results when it matters

    Ok there bud

    Hope you play better in 20 minutes than in the first game
     
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    You know that hilarious because the other two games we said would be our match I ended up winning. so quit the bullshit love how pathetic teams get all rustled when score between two teams are close and they need the one win badly.

    Osgoode:man sorry my teams a bunch of idiots
    Osgoode:idk why they're being so rude
    scimjara:seriously...
    scimjara:u shouldnt have even told thme that
    Osgoode:man they asked me when i was playing...they got scared because you guys were beating us

    there goes that . Gl to my friend Osgoode and gl to canada
     
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    >tfw someone calls atomicllamas a reliable player
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    p.s srry to all my fans. ik foolcool is a poor substitute for the real thing, but i was determined not canadian enough after last week. i have since gone on a spiritual journey to niagra falls to drink maple syrup w/michael cera, and will be returning next week better than ever =D

    e: WHO'S RUDE. I'M POLITE AF BRO, IDGI ?_?
     
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  23. Texas Cloverleaf

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    Oh yeah, so rustled here, quaking in my boots let me tell ya. What's the series at again? 6-4? You tell me about which of our teams needs it more and how pathetic it is to run around dodging a loss.

    Enjoy the fight, see you in the playoffs...or not if this week is any indication
     
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    gg oosegoode lost in a decent game
     
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    gg to scimjara who's a good friend of mine, and yes we did agree to play on saturday for people that are wondering
     
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    ftr, team canada does not support any of the views of the uncharacteristically not-nice texas cloverleaf. sorry eh ˚3˚
     
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    Draciel ALLEZ! ALLEZ! ALLEZ!

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    The match will be declared a tie as there is no self-ko clause in RBY, so the rematch of the final game should happen. Since both the players agreed on a time already, this shouldn't be a problem!
    @Golden Gyarados
    @fapkingg
     
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    buny heartbreak hotel

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    don't boom on the last turn when there's no self-ko clause dummies
     
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    Won vs fapkingg in the rematch, 2-1-1 overall score gg
     
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    The only one to blame in this situation is myself during g1. I can't believe i clicked a button without even thinking lol..
    GGs.
     
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    Chano (New Attitude)'s PC isn't working. Seirle enters for him.
     
  34. POSHO THE THUNDER

    POSHO THE THUNDER Time to turn it up a notch.

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    Im waiting for play in some hours vs my oppponent.
    I wrote him many pms.
     
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    won vs confide
     
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    Marshall brought exca and I was told to take the win by my team.
     
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