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[ORAS Ubers] My First RMT

Discussion in 'Rate My Team' started by Oggy, Jun 1, 2016.

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  1. Oggy

    Oggy New Member

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    Team at a glance!
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    Hi i am known as oggy/zompire/gotenks on po.So this is my first RMT.Hope u like it so let's begin!

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    Arceus-Dark @ Dread Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 208 HP / 252 Def / 48 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Defog
    - Judgment
    - Recover

    Arceus-Dark has a major role in this team.I used max def for different physical sweepers.Basically its role is to take care of physical arceus and it is also for arceus-ghost.Since its a dark type and max def it can take arceus-ghost and normal arceus and burn them.Many people began to use mega salamence so it can also be used as a counter for megamence.You can just burn physical sweepers.It is also one of the best counters for aegislash cuz it is max defensive.It can also kill both mewtwo and mewtwo y.It can also be used to kill giratina.

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    Klefki (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Prankster
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Substitute
    - Thunder Wave
    - Toxic

    Ok so next member of this team is klefki.Its major role is to counter xerneas and darkrai.It,being max spD can easily take on xerneas'moonblast or hp ground.I used substitute to block dark void and hit back harder with t.wave and then play rough.In case arceus-dark can't kill salamence klefki is also a check for mega salamence and other sweepers.Having toxic and substitute with LO support can do major damage on different pokes.Since arceus dark is weak to mega mewtwo X so klefki is there to help.

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    Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - Earthquake
    - Sacred Fire
    - Sleep Talk

    Next member is ho-Oh.Since arceus and klefki check for many mons.Ho-Oh is there to sweep them.With klefki paralyzing them and arceus burning them,ho-Oh will do some serious damage on them.I used sleep talk in case klefki is down.Having sleep talk ho-Oh can also do some serious damage on darkrai and xerneas and also on different paralyzed or burnt sweepers.

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    Kyogre @ Blue Orb
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 168 HP / 144 Def / 196 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Rest
    - Scald
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunder

    Next we have is primal kyogre.its main role is to actually counter groudon's fire type attacka and it can also take a hit.So basically a primal groudon counter.I used rest and sleep talk set to make it more dangerous.Like i said before burnt or paralyzed targets won't do much damage so primal kyogre is there to revenge kill them.Primal kyogre is also for ground-ceus.Some People still use special att. set for ground-ceus so kyogre can easily counter that.Since arceus dark is max def. it can take a hit from +2 ground-ceus and burn it then kyogre will KO it.Oh and i almost forgot about rock-ceus.It is a perfect counter for it.Many people use will-o-wisp set for rock-ceus so kyogre can easily kill it.

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    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 156 HP / 252 Def / 100 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Ice Beam
    - Roost
    - Toxic
    - Whirlwind

    Next member of the team is lugia.Having toxic ,roost and whirlwind can really do serious damage on opponent's pokemons with having multiscale support.Ice beam can OHKO megamence and rayquaza (i think) since we have a hazard setter (primal groudon) so whirlwind can help us too.If opponent mon sets up lugia can take a hit easily having multiscale and whirlwind it.It can be a very good counter for ho-Oh and rayquaza.

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    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 136 HP / 244 Atk / 128 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Fire Punch
    - Precipice Blades
    - Rock Polish
    - Stealth Rock

    Last but not least our team's hazard setter primal groudon.Its basic role is to set rocks.I used rock polish with good att. stats to sweep a little.It can be used for other hazard setters like klefki,scolipede,deoxys-s and excadrill too.

    SO ITS COMPLETE.I HOPE U LIKE IT.SORRY FOR SOME MISTAKES.I WILL TRY HARDER NEXT TIME.

    Here is the team
    Klefki (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Prankster
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Substitute
    - Thunder Wave
    - Toxic

    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 156 HP / 252 Def / 100 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Ice Beam
    - Roost
    - Toxic
    - Whirlwind

    Arceus-Dark @ Dread Plate
    Trait: Multitype
    EVs: 208 HP / 252 Def / 48 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Defog
    - Judgment
    - Recover

    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Trait: Drought
    EVs: 136 HP / 244 Atk / 128 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Fire Punch
    - Precipice Blades
    - Rock Polish
    - Stealth Rock

    Kyogre @ Blue Orb
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 168 HP / 144 Def / 196 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Rest
    - Scald
    - Sleep Talk
    - Thunder

    Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - Earthquake
    - Sacred Fire
    - Sleep Talk
     
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  2. G00GLE

    G00GLE G00GLE THE SEARCH ENGINE

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    Hey Oggy , Grats for ur First RMT . This team is kinda solid one because u have checks for the most pokes on this tier but i would suggest u Dragon Arceus Because I can See Facade Mences Which Can be a annoying thing.Running Dragon ceus would Give Support because Judgment OHKO's Mence and DragonCeus have Great Def Bulk which can be helpful against Physical Sweepers.And The Mega Slot is still free , Try to use something which can used to break stalls.Defensive Mence is Good With Refresh but it is not Necessary because u already have Ho-Oh.Thanks for Trying my Substitute Klefki Set.
     
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  3. Oggy

    Oggy New Member

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    Thx for the suggestion norman but i still prefer dark-ceus cuz it isn't just for megamence i have whirlwind and icebeam multiscale lugia for megamence so it isn't a big problem.Btw thx for the suggestion
     
  4. Velvet Blood

    Velvet Blood Shit maybe

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    Ice beam > Thunder
    anal'd by diancie
    sub?
     
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  5. Oggy

    Oggy New Member

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    Ty for the suggestion PE but primal kyogre and primal groudon can take mega diancie especially primal kyogre
     
  6. Lacus Clyne

    Lacus Clyne This might get unpleasant!

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    Hey there. After looking at your team I realized that there are some really hard weaknesses.

    - No E-Killer check
    - No Ho-Oh switch-in
    - Mega-Diancie can be a pain since you don't got anything that can outspeed that Pokémon or switch-in
    - Substitute Klefki is not viable
    - Questionable movesets and EV splits
    - Arceus-Dark isn't really that good of a defoger but I can see what you were trying to do

    Since Stall isn't really good in ORAS Ubers I suggest making your team a bit more offensive.
    - More speed control. Having atleast some Pokémon in your who are capable of revenge killing or pressuring your opponent is mandatory. So change Lugia to a Scarf Landorus-T. Both check E-Killer and Mega-Salamence while Landorus-T is more offensive.
    - Remove Substitute from Klefki and add Spikes to it. Even Heal Block can be good to deal with RestTalk Xerneas, but thats a bit gimmicky.
    - Use Arceus-Dragon instead of Arceus-Dark. You don't need Arceus-Dark with Klefki in your team so better use an Arceus-Variant that helps your team. You can also use Arceus-Water with Ice Beam if you think that Mega-Diancie is too much of a threat but I don't think its neccesary since you got many Pokémon who can atleast tank a hit or revenge kill.
    - Almost every Pokémon needs better EV splits. Primal-Groudon is no exeption.
    - Remove Primal-Kyogre and add something that can deal with E-Killer. I suggest Mega-Gengar since it can make use of all the status spam your team got.
    - Make Ho-Oh Jolly. Many people use 290 Spe Pokémon so outspeeding them is really helpful.

    Klefki (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Spikes
    - Thunder Wave
    - Toxic
    Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 44 Def / 212 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - Explosion
    - U-turn
    Arceus-Dragon @ Draco Plate
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 Spe
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Judgment
    - Recover
    - Defog
    - Toxic
    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 248 HP / 56 Def / 204 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Thunder Wave
    - Precipice Blades
    - Dragon Tail
    - Stealth Rock
    Gengar @ Gengarite
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Hex
    - Protect
    - Focus Blast
    - Will-O-Wisp
    Ho-Oh @ Choice Band
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Brave Bird
    - Earthquake
    - Sacred Fire
    - Sleep Talk

     
  7. ! HC ! Magic Bounce

    ! HC ! Magic Bounce New Member

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    hooh with substitute rapes u w/o vaseline
    why no speed on lugia it normally helps vs groudon
    <3
     
  8. prof.dragonite

    prof.dragonite Beware the Ides of March!

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    All my opinions are related to the PO server as of july 2016. This information can get outdated soon as a pokemon's usability changes over time. Other servers with other trends are not considered here as well.

    i agree with lacus on the fact that your arceus-dark needs to be replaced.


    • You are trying to counter an ekiller arceus? I beleive you have a lugia for that. Arceus-dark is just geomancy set-up fodder for a xerneas. when that bad boy switches in, your arceus gets out allowing a free geomancy. and geomancy xerneas is EXTREMELY common. if you're using it for stall, try a perish trap arceus and run max spD. I wouldn't really suggest that but you really look like you want to run dark-eus.Instead, as you have an unused mega slot, I would suggest using a mega Mewtwo-X or a mega-Gengar as they are good arceus ekiller counters along with generally good pokemon.If you are using another mega, even Scarfed Genesect is a good counter.
    • So you say klefki is your mence counter? I hope you have taken into account the fact that standard mence set uses EQ as i cant see how you deal with that one. Also, refresh mence is a real thing. Klefki is no counter for mega mewtwo-x as play rough just misses 2HKO 'ing one. On the other hand MMewtwoX comfortably 2HKO's klefki with EQ taking less than 50%
    • I have no problem with the Ho-oh excluding the fact that the jolly nature would really help.
    • The lugia has a nice set too. Reflect would be better than ice beam as you're using lugia for physical stall. Ice beam ohko's rayquaza and megamence but i have seen neither being used recently.
    • So Groudon is your lead? Lead groudon is common but honestly its much better as a physical attacker without the rocks taking up one slot. Infact, your klefki would make a better lead as Deoxys-A is a very common lead and that can barely touch it. Even greninja is not comfortable around a klefki. Try running paradancer or hyper-offensive groudon istead.
    • Overall, your team has some major flaws.
      1. All pokemon are relatively slow
      2. You have nothing for a groudon that has switched in to your kyogre
      3. Mega Mewtwo-X pwns you
      4. Shaymin exists and you are not prepared for it
      5. No genesect counters outside of ho-oh
      6. Absolutely nothing for xerneas which is a real threat
      7. EV's are messed up
      8. Little offensive capability with most sets being stall
      9. Many sets are not viable esp. sub klefki and arceus
      10. Bird antidote arceus pwns 1/3 of your team
    Hope this helps
     
  9. ! HC ! Magic Bounce

    ! HC ! Magic Bounce New Member

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    i really hope you're joking
     
  10. prof.dragonite

    prof.dragonite Beware the Ides of March!

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    joking in what sense?
     
  11. Haze Victory

    Haze Victory Dem slumps..~

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    Replace Arc dark with Arc Ghost, as it gives you an additional Ekiller and M Lucario check. I see stall giving you tons of trouble regardless, so a ghost arceus would only make a slight difference against Chansey.

    It's a solid team btw, however I see it struggling big time against stall. However, making a change here would cause the entire team to be overhauled.

    Edit : Give Groudon Dragon Claw/Stone Edge over Fire punch on a RP set.
     
  12. Lord Itachi

    Lord Itachi Amaterasu

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    OK need some real improvement in this team. Here is my version of your team:
    Klefki @ Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
    Careful Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Thunder Wave
    - Heal Block
    - Toxic

    Kyogre @ Blue Orb
    Ability: Drizzle
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Scald
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Toxic

    Groudon @ Red Orb
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 48 SpD / 72 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Thunder Wave
    - Stealth Rock
    - Precipice Blades
    - Rock Slide

    Arceus-Dragon @ Draco Plate
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 248 HP / 160 Def / 100 Spe
    Bold Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Judgment
    - Recover
    - Defog
    - Toxic

    Ho-Oh @ Life Orb
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Brave Bird
    - Sacred Fire
    - Earthquake
    - Sleep Talk

    Lugia @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 248 HP / 124 Def / 136 Spd
    IVs: 0 Atk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Toxic
    - Ice Beam
    - Roost
    - Whirlwind
    This makes the team quite well rounded. Also, as less people are running Arceus Rock so I find Life Orb is much better than Choice Band. I myself like to play stall but better go balanced.
     
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