It's that time once again, we finally have our stats page back up and running after finding out what the problem was for it being down, which means that it's time for a tier shift. This thread is for the knowledge of what is dropping to the tier, rising from the tier below, and leaving the tier to higher tiers based on the 4% usage statistic that Pokmeon receive in a tier they are used in. Rising to OU from LU: Spoiler Medicham Rising to UU from LU: Spoiler Abomasnow Aggron Slowking Dropping from UU to LU: Spoiler Absol Ampharos Donphan Heliolisk Hitmontop Quagsire Roserade Rotom-C Sharpedo Toxicroak Rising to LU from NU: Spoiler Clawitzer Bronzong Eelektross Gurdurr Sawk Xatu Dropping from LU to NU: Spoiler Archeops Dragalge Electivire Fletchinder Glalie Golbat Hoopa Jolteon Magneton Mandibuzz Rhyperior Samurott Rising to UU from NU (because it has an effect on our tier as well): Spoiler Tangrowth Houndoom So as you all can see, we lose Aggron which includes Aggronite meaning we don't have another ridiculously fat physical wall to worry about, as well as losing one of our key pivots in Slowking whose splashability on any team is a loss to many for an offensive tank of a water Pokemon. Should mean that Milotic or Vaporeon can get more use in it's stead even if they don't have the move coverage that Slowking offered. We also lost a big hitter in the form of Abomasnow which includes its Mega meaning no superpowered Blizzards will be fired off that easily anymore. As well Medicham makes the huge leap back to OU again, likely due to it's Mega finding a lot of use there, and as such we are down one very great Fighting type, but we have so many that can fill in the role of pure and powerful that Medicham is one less threat that we have to worry about. Seeing as Tangrowth and Houndoom make the jump up to UU, NU and LU loses two very useful Pokemon in the metagames, that served specialized Offensive roles, and as such we take a hit without them being around, so it's a detriment to our meta. As far as drops go, we gain a whole lot. Donphan is a pretty cool spinner, Hitmontop is returning is nice and adds a useful offensive or defensive piece for a spinner. Quagsire was something that was long overdue to drop, but it'll be something useful as an aswer to certain set up users. Roserade is something we've been needing for a long time in a good offensive Grass/Poison since obviously Venusaur can't drop, and Vileplume isn't that good in regards to our Metagame, however Roserade is a nice and powerful addition to the tier. A speedy and powerful Pokemon that can spike, induce sleep, use a great ability in Natural Cure, and play anti-meta to many threats. It might be super powerful, but it'll likely be a welcome addition for the time being. Rotom-Mow makes it's return to the tier, though we still have Rotom-H around, making the fight for use of the formes pretty unique since they can hit different threats, though Rotom-H is the go to Rotom form around here, so I can see Mow falling to the wayside. Finally, we have Toxicroak and Ampharos dropping, which includes the Mega form, so Mega Ampharos will be usable for the time being. We're gonna let these two into the tier to see how much of an impact they'll make before deciding if they'll be more detrimental to the meta instead of being a more positive and balanced force, as it has been a very long time since either one fell this far down, we need more of a look at them instead of just outright banning them from the tier because of being on paper strong. However, we have made an executive decision to quickban Absolite from the LU tier on several basis from previous experience. Mega Absol was previously LU in one tier shift that many other powerful Pokemon dropped and were around in the tier, as such it wasn't exactly hard to combine offensive pressure or match it for speed to make it difficult to use, but it was an excessive force during it's previous time in the tier, and most of the highly offensive threats to it are no longer in the tier, and as such there would be more forced competition to have something like a Mach Punch user (Hitmontop, Lee, and Gurdurr) or playing very reserved with many Pokemon, as it is not a Pokemon you can actually deal with passively without some luck (from Scald burns). It has a way to beat out pretty much all its checks with access to strong special moves if they are Physically Defensive answers such as Steelix, Chesnaught, or Donphan. Also, it hits pretty much most Pokemon for neutral and massive damage. I do believe we opted to make the choice to quickban Sharpedo as well, though I can't exactly remember our discussion on it the other day, so I'll wait til I can talk to Aurist and Gengar again before I make a confirmation on it, or if one of them wants to confirm for me after I post this that our decision was to do that. Once it's confirmed we'll post on the obvious "why" reasoning with the confirmation, but it shouldn't be too much of a surprise to players to do so out of the gate. I added the drops to NU to make people remember, hello all those things are usable in LU to a high degree! Ok, Archeops isn't that usable, nor is Electivire, and Golbat as things have been is bad too, so honestly stop using those, but the rest of them are power packed LU beasts, use those things because they actually make for good teams! Anyway as far as potential suspects are concerned, with the loss of some of our core and key Pokemon, we're looking at likely suspecting the following Pokemon within the start of the new tier shift: Nidoqueen Tyrantrum Test out and gather opinions on Mega Ampharos, Toxicroak, and likely Roserade. Any other opinions are up for discussion too, so if you have any suggestions on negative existances in the metagame, feel free to discuss and nominate them for suspects. This is probably where we'll start up for the tier shift, so feel free to start discussing the drops, how the rises will impact the metagame without them being here, and cores and combinations that are to be found successful in as the metagame evolves.