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Suspect Discussion: Rhyperior [Banned]

Discussion in 'Gen 6 NU' started by Draciel, Jun 11, 2016.

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  1. Draciel

    Draciel ALLEZ! ALLEZ! ALLEZ!

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    Discuss the possibility of Rhyperior being banned from the ORAS NU tier.

    Use this thread to discuss Rhyperior's effect on the metagame; talk about the different sets it can use, good partners and potential checks/counters. State your opinion on whether you think it should be banned, but make sure your posts are backed up by experience and knowledge. Anyone who makes post based on theorymon risks being infracted.

    If you're unsure about posting check out this guide and post anyway.
     
  2. Lacus Clyne

    Lacus Clyne This might get unpleasant!

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    So I have seen many Rhyperior variants but the most threating should be Double Dance. Since most of the NU Pokémon are rather slow you can easily set up a Swords Dance and outspeed half the meta. Having a monstrous 140 Atk base, which equals 832 Atk with max investment, there is nothing that can take a hit. Potential Focus Sash's can be broken with Rock Blast. Also we shouldn't forget the natural bulk from Rhyperior. A 130 Def base lets it switch-in on almost every physical attacker. The ability Solid Rock also enhances the defensive capabilites. Don't forget that you can also use SR support or normal RP. There are so many options. You could say that Rhyperior is the Primal-Groudon in NU at the moment!

    Please quick ban.
     
  3. Edna

    Edna Chasing the Dragon Forum Moderator Forum Moderator

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    i don't know why you would play dual dance when you could simply run CB and destroy the tier with EQ Rock Blast Megahorn Fire Punch/Ice Punch. Rhyperior can invest speed to 252 because it would outspeed Lanturn and ohko it with EQ, it checks so many thing even without invest in hp due to solid rock and it has a perfect movepool to overwhelm the whole tier alongside Dragalge and Mega Glalie. There's not much to say about Rhyperior outside the fact it turns the tier into an offense shitfest where the first one to lose his nuke loses.
     
  4. Xdevo

    Xdevo Phrasing Super Moderator Tour Director Super Moderator Tour Director

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    So, I think its pretty obvious how broken Rhyperior is in NU. Despite some issues with speed and typing, Rhyp manages to completely warp NU around itself. Though the typing is pretty trash Defensively, the STAB moves are both very powerful and have a large lack of resists together (Torterra, Quilladin, Claydol). This lets Rhpy can just use two STAB moves and have no real issues with coverage. Dual Dance allows Rhyperior to be a major threat to both offensive and defensive teams. There is extremely little that can take a +2 Earthquake or Stone Edge on a defensive team, and there's little that can adequately stop Rhyp on an offensive team once it has +2 Speed.

    Obviously, CB, RP, SD, and the slew of other sets that Rhyp can run are all good at what they want to do, and they all make up reasons why Rhyp is broken in NU.

    As with all broken mons, there are a few checks to Rhyp in NU, but none are all that great outside of checking Rhyp, and Rhyp /can/ circumvent most of these checks with appropriate moves.


    For those wondering why Rhyperior is better than Rhydon, Rhyperior has higher Attack, better bulk against resisted attacks (even with eviolite), and Rhyperior can use more items and still be amazing. Items especially make Rhyperior a bigger threat, between the resist berries, Life Orb, and Lum Berry, Rhyp is much, much harder to stop than Rhydon.
    0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 363-432 (97.8 - 116.4%)
    0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 372-444 (105.9 - 126.4%)
    252+ Atk Hariyama Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 243-288 (65.4 - 77.6%)
    252+ Atk Hariyama Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Rhydon: 234-276 (66.6 - 78.6%)

    252+ Atk Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 285-336 (66.4 - 78.3%)
    252+ Atk Rhydon Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hariyama: 270-318 (62.9 - 74.1%)
     
  5. Draciel

    Draciel ALLEZ! ALLEZ! ALLEZ!

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    Everything has been pretty much said already; with it's combination of amazing attack, superb defense and excellent dual STABs Rhyperior is an unstoppable force in NU. With both SD and RP it can threaten offensive and defensive things alike and it can easily afford to run both as EQ+SE is all the coverage it needs to sweep. Absolutely nothing stops Rhyperior and it does not deserve to be in NU, so it will be banned in the tier from now on.
     
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