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August/September ORAS UU Potential suspects discussion

Discussion in 'Gen 6 UU' started by NananaBatman, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. NananaBatman

    NananaBatman Well-Known Member

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    OU > UU
    Diancie

    UU>OU
    Heracross

    Not a big change, but we do get a decent fire/dragon check in Diancie which is cool. We do lose a very threatening fightning type, but there's plenty of them in the tier so I guess we'll survive.

    Use this thread to discuss potential suspects in the ORAS UU metagame. As usual, try to post intelligently and explain why you would think X pokemon is suspect worthy.

    NU>OU
    Politoed

    LU>UU
    Roserade
    Donphan
    Heliolisk

    UU>LU
    Arcanine
    Shaymin
    Gligar
    Seismitoad

    NU>LU
    Jolteon
    Scrafty

    LU>NU
    Gurdurr
    Clawitzer
    Swellow
     
  2. Funbot28

    Funbot28 Active Member

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    Is Mega Doancie legal?
     
  3. NananaBatman

    NananaBatman Well-Known Member

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  4. Professor Oak

    Professor Oak same Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep Forum Administrator Server Owner Social Media Rep

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    apparently the other admins forgot to unban gothitelle from uu when shadow tag got banned

    so it is now usable in uu, see you in lu goth
     
  5. Funbot28

    Funbot28 Active Member

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    Hey UU players, so I just wanted to bring up a suspect that I feel has been warranted for a while now due to the reasons I will state now:

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    Salamence

    Now after taking a break from PO ORAS UU, I have recently started to play it again mainly due to the fact that Victini is unbanned in this iteration compared to Smogon UU (and Tini is one of my fav wallbreakers to use atm). However, I did notice that Mence was still in UU and in which at first I did not mind, but after playing quite a few ladder matches I realized how menacing Salamence truly is to the meta.

    #1) Dragon Dance variants has very few counterplay

    DD Salamence is probably its best and most dangerous set due to the fact that even after only one DD boost, very few mons are able to either not be 2HKOed on the switchin or outspeed and revenge kill it, with its ability in Intimidate offering it even more chances to setup. This creates pretty unfavorable situations for the opposing player which often leads to restrictions when building in the teambuilder phase just to check it.

    #2) It has a multitude of effective sets/roles

    Salamence is not only a powerful setup sweeper, but can also act as a great mixed wallbreaker as well with its Life Orb set and can be a great physical wall with its Defog set. All these diverse positions often lead it to be very difficult to predict exactly what set the opposing Salamence is running, which leads to lost matches due to mispredicting the set being so detrimental to the outcome of the game.

    There are plenty of other reasons I would like to stress, but I will save it for the potential suspect thread...
     
  6. NananaBatman

    NananaBatman Well-Known Member

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    Salamence was suspected already here on PO. It's obviously been a while, but none of the bans/usage drops and rises (save Jirachi) affect Salamence in such a way that would warrant a new suspect.