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[Resource] SM OU Viability Ranking Thread

Discussion in 'Gen 7 Discussion' started by Draciel, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. Draciel

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    SM OU Viability Rankings

    Hello and welcome to the SM OU Viability Rankings. In this thread, we as a community will rank every single usable Pokemon into tiers that reflect their viability in the current OU metagame. Everyone is encouraged to post their thoughts and opinions on the rankings provided they are justified by solid reasoning. Poorly made posts will be deleted and multiple occurrences might lead to an infraction.

    This thread is for discussing the viability of a pokemon in OU, and the discussion should be strictly about that. To discuss possible suspects and the metagame in general, please check out the SM OU Metagame Discussion Thread right here.


    S Rank:

    S Rank is reserved for Pokemon who are extremely threatening and impact the metagame in a major way. These Pokemon can either fulfill a variety of roles or are superlative in performing one task on a team.

    [​IMG]Genesect
    [​IMG] Landorus-T
    [​IMG] Metagross (Mega)
    [​IMG] Tapu Lele


    A Rank:

    A Rank Pokemon are the bread-and-butter of the tier, usually filling most roles in a team in the most efficient way the tier can offer. They will easily fit into a team and often define the style of play. They are not as overwhelming a presence as S Rank Pokemon but will almost always perform well.

    A+ Rank

    [​IMG] Ash Greninja
    [​IMG] Celesteela
    [​IMG] Greninja
    [​IMG] Heatran
    [​IMG] Magearna
    [​IMG] Pheromosa
    [​IMG] Tapu Fini

    A Rank

    [​IMG] Alakazam (Mega)
    [​IMG] Buzzwole
    [​IMG] Charizard (Mega-X)
    [​IMG] Ferrothorn
    [​IMG] Garchomp
    [​IMG] Hoopa-U
    [​IMG] Magnezone
    [​IMG] Manaphy
    [​IMG] Tapu Bulu
    [​IMG] Tapu Koko
    [​IMG] Venusaur (Mega)
    [​IMG] Zygarde

    A- Rank

    [​IMG] Amoonguss
    [​IMG] Charizard (Mega-Y)
    [​IMG] Excadrill
    [​IMG] Jirachi
    [​IMG] Latios
    [​IMG] Marowak (Alolan)
    [​IMG] Pinsir (Mega)
    [​IMG] Rotom-W
    [​IMG] Scizor (Mega)
    [​IMG] Skarmory
    [​IMG] Tornadus-T
    [​IMG] Toxapex
    [​IMG] Tyranitar
    [​IMG] Volcarona
    [​IMG] Zygarde-10%


    B Rank:

    B Rank Pokemon are less easily able to slot into a team as A Rank Pokemon, but are still able to fill a role well and be a presence in the right team. Pokemon which may be slightly outperformed by higher ranks but nonetheless still fit well, and Pokemon which have a threatening but small niche may be in this rank.

    B+ Rank

    [​IMG] Bisharp
    [​IMG] Chansey
    [​IMG] Clefable
    [​IMG] Dragonite
    [​IMG] Dugtrio
    [​IMG] Gengar
    [​IMG] Gyarados
    [​IMG] Kartana
    [​IMG] Kyurem-B
    [​IMG] Pelipper
    [​IMG] Sableye (Mega)
    [​IMG] Salamence
    [​IMG] Serperior
    [​IMG] Tangrowth
    [​IMG] Terrakion
    [​IMG] Thundurus
    [​IMG] Weavile
    [​IMG] Zapdos

    B Rank

    [​IMG] Gliscor
    [​IMG] Gyarados (Mega)
    [​IMG] Keldeo
    [​IMG] Kingdra
    [​IMG] Mantine
    [​IMG] Nihilego
    [​IMG] Porygon-Z
    [​IMG] Slowbro
    [​IMG] Volcanion

    B- Rank

    [​IMG] Aerodactyl (Mega)
    [​IMG] Breloom
    [​IMG] Latias
    [​IMG] Mamoswine
    [​IMG] Mew
    [​IMG] Omastar
    [​IMG] Sharpedo (Mega)
    [​IMG] Suicune
    [​IMG] Slowbro (Mega)
    [​IMG] Slowking
    [​IMG] Starmie
    [​IMG] Togekiss


    C Rank:

    C Rank Pokemon have notable niches in the metagame, but usually require significant support. These Pokemon face competition for their roles from the higher ranked Pokemon but can find still find use.

    C+ Rank

    [​IMG] Absol (Mega)
    [​IMG] Alomomola
    [​IMG] Azumarill
    [​IMG]Crawdaunt
    [​IMG] Diggersby
    [​IMG] Gastrodon
    [​IMG] Hippowdon
    [​IMG] Klefki
    [​IMG] Mandibuzz
    [​IMG] Mimikyu
    [​IMG] Muk (Alolan)
    [​IMG] Minior
    [​IMG] Necrozma
    [​IMG] Nidoking
    [​IMG] Ninetales (Alolan)
    [​IMG] Scolipede
    [​IMG] Shedinja
    [​IMG] Torkoal
    [​IMG] Thundurus-T
    [​IMG] Xurkitree

    C Rank

    [​IMG] Azelf
    [​IMG] Dragalge
    [​IMG] Empoleon
    [​IMG] Garchomp (Mega)
    [​IMG] Kabutops
    [​IMG] Kyurem
    [​IMG] Magneton
    [​IMG] Reuniclus
    [​IMG] Shuckle
    [​IMG] Smeargle
    [​IMG] Whimsicott

    C- Rank

    [​IMG] Bewear
    [​IMG] Cofagrigus
    [​IMG] Decidueye
    [​IMG] Hawlucha
    [​IMG] Hydreigon
    [​IMG] Primarina
    [​IMG] Seismitoad
    [​IMG] Talonflame
    [​IMG] Tentacruel
    [​IMG] Victini


    Blacklist: A special ranking for the pokemon that are widely believed to be viable or see fair usage, but aren't actually viable, nor practical to use due to being entirely obsoleted, plain bad, or a variety of other reasons.
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  2. Froggy

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    Great work on this!! I have listed my opinion of potential changes and short reasons why.

    Genesect S Class
    Even though I see this getting suspected or banned quickly it is still OU and should be included in the list!
    Buzzwole Up to A+
    Beast Boost combined with high attack and defense and buff to leech life make this thing work well on offensive and defensive cores

    Tapu Koko Up to A+
    This thing literally is the meta right now, I almost think it should be S class, but because of low special attack think A+. This thing can work on basically any team and has multiple sets that work (mixed, LO, Specs, I have even seen scarf)

    Amoonguss Down to B+
    He is better in theory than practice in my opinion in this generation. In a metagame full of psychic and steel types he is struggling. Especially since most of things he checks run coverage moves for him. Pheromosa has Ice beam, Tapu Koko has Brave Bird.

    Jirachi Down to B+
    I just find him to not have the threatening presence he has had the past 3 generations. I can see him finding a spot at the top of a UU tier honestly. Again good in theory, but outclassed and hard to find spots for on teams.

    Marowak (Alolan) Up to A
    Meet everyones favorite Pheremosa check. This thing goes above and beyond its role and has become on of the more fun new toys of the generation and can find spots on a good deal of teams in this fire weak OU tier.

    Scizor (Mega) Up to A
    Access to Defog, SD and U-Turn in a generation run by volturn offences makes him fit on a good majority of teams right now.

    Bisharp Up to A-
    With Latios as a common defog user and charizard such a huge threat, Bisharp once again finds himself at the center of the anti meta cores. I would move him up because he once again checks a good majority of the top half of the tier.

    Dugtrio Up to A-
    Steel sweepers are a huge threat and hard hitters like tapu lele appriciate dugtrio's ability to remove defensive threats, making dugtrio an easy addition to many teams

    Kartana Down to B
    Kartana is in my opinion one of the generations biggest disapointments... amazing offensive stats with access to NO hard hitting moves. It has SD, but its Special Defense makes even this difficult to consistantly get off.

    Gyarados Up to A
    Seriously this thing is amazing. This is my second favorite mon to run z fly on. Intimidate also is threatening as ever and his ability to beat pheremosa and buzzwole makes him a huge asset.

    Porygon-Z Up to B+
    This thing is a huge threat with z happy hour. It has a huge ability to sweep late game.

    Togekiss Down to C
    I dont think Togekiss has ever been viable in OU, but it becomes worse and worse every generation. Last generation it got faerie added to its type honestly making its typing much worse and this generation we have a plethra of steel types running the tier. I could not see it having a viable spot on a team this gen in OU.

    Azumarill Up to B
    Huge Power as well as its ability to beat Mega Zard X makes him extremly viable in this Tier.
    Mimikyu Up to B
    A Great typing, SD and his awesome ability make him a threat in this tier.
    Muk (Alolan) Up to B-
    Assalt Vest Muk is really good, I also really like his new type coverage.
    Xurkitree Up to B
    Z Hypnosis Boosting Speed +1 followed by Tail Growth makes him a really common late game sweeper.
    Victini Up to B-
    This tier is super weak to fire types and his ability to fit on volturn teams is why i think he deserves a higher ranking.

    Scizor Up to B-
    How is Scizor not even ranked!?!? Mega Scizor is better, but on teams with a mega on them already Scizor can still play a critical role.
     
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  3. E.T.

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    I'd actually support putting Porygon-Z even higher than B+ because it can also run Z-Conversion, which allows it to change its type to the type of the move in its first moveslot, in addition to getting +1 boosts to its stats. I've been playing with a BoltBeam set for a bit, and it is very effective. With Electric Surge support, it has the potential to utterly annihilate the competition with Adaptability / Download boosted Thunderbolt.

    Alolan Marowak could very well be A rank considering that it can wall several key threats, such as Tapu Koko, with its Fire / Ghost typing and immunity to Electric via Lightning Rod. It also still has its trusty Thick Club, which doubles its Attack, and it has a nice movepool with Shadow Bone, Flare Blitz, Earthquake, elemental punches, Swords Dance and Stealth Rock. However, it is quite sluggish.

    I also agree with Froggy in regards to Genesect, Tapu Koko, Bisharp, Dugtro, and Mimikyu. My initial thought on Kartana is that its best potential may be in a Choice Scarf set that acts as a revenge killer and / or late-game cleaner, but I'll refrain from saying anymore about it, or the others mentioned, for now.

    For an additional point, I'd like to propose:

    Mandibuzz C+ to B-
    Defensive Mandibuzz has the ability to use Foul Play to cause problems for several physical threats, such as Landorus-T; Mega Metagross; (Mega) Scizor; and other Attack boosters. It can support its team with Defog, avoid losing momentum (to an extent) with U-Turn, or stall break with Taunt.
     
  4. Annoying Orange

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    @Froggy your post is hard to read on the black theme.

    I'd actually move Decidueye up to B- as it's a nice defogger with the ability to trap and reliable recovery.

    Genesect into S as you have to somewhat build your team with one of few mons that can check it.

    Venusaur maybe to A+ as it can check a lot of things, One of, if not the best for fwg cores and it absorbs tspikes. threatens 3/4 of the kokos. Also reliable recovery and nice coverage.

    Buzzwole to A+ or S. Its offense and bulk and STAB base 80 recovery move + its decent speed in comparison to a lot of things. The subpunch set is extremely dangerous and hard to stop.

    I'd put Salazzle in the C's somewhere as it isn't listed yet, but its speed and ability to poison anything plus it's offensive capabilities are very underrated.

    I'd move Mega Metagross down to A+ as it is a threat but I wouldn't consider it as broken as Protean Greninja or Genesect.

    That being said I'd move Greninja up.

    Maybe a mention of Araquanid in a lower ranking as its Special bulk and its ability make it somewhat viable in the metagame.
     
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