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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by pokemonnerd, Feb 5, 2017.

  1. Fate Testarossa

    Fate Testarossa Unbreakable Bond

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    Yeah, I finished streaming my summons about an hour ago. Of course, I only pulled red orbs. Sadly, I didn't get Lucina, but I did manage to pull 5* Ike (+Atk, -Def), 5* Nowi (+Atk, -Def) since one of the circles was 1 blue and 4 colorless, 5* Ike (+Atk, -Res), TWO 5* Tharjas (one +Spd, -Def and the other +HP, -Spd), as well as a bunch of great fodder, such as Abel (Swordbreaker), THREE Cains (Wings of Mercy), Odin (Blarblade, Moonbow), Palla (Moonbow), and FOUR Hinatas (Fury). Other notable units are Marth (neutral) and Lilina (+Spd, -Res).

    I deserved this. I waited 6-7 weeks saving up orbs, and I'm pretty damn glad I got these pulls.
     
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  2. Professor Oak

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    1st board: 1 red, 2 colourless, 2 green:
    4* Eirika = +Atk, -Res, not terrible, probably gonna 5* it

    2nd board:
    4* Gwendolyn = fodder / feathers
    3* Sophia = feathers
    3* Hannah = feathers

    Glad to get a decent Eirika, even if it's not the perfect one I wanted.
     
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  3. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    my first pull this banner was lucina shoudlve stopped after that
     
  4. pokemonnerd

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    I'm not pulling this one. Already have enough good reds and a Lucina and Nowi and Robin of my own and Tharja just isn't that appealing to pull for me.

    These vortex maps are insane though. Not being able to change your team up every map makes you cover all your bases in 4 members and a healer is recommended.
     
  5. Cheezeburgar

    Cheezeburgar dankest john

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    ive always used a healer. bride lyn is just too good. leveling nowi up too so im def using lyn / nowi 2 fillers instead of lyn / ephraim / ranged fillers
     
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    got lucky, pulled 2 Nowi on that banner, and then another 5* Rebecca, a 5* Corrin-M (on a board with no colourless orbs) and a Bridal Cordelia before the Bridal banner ended.

    With a decent Nowi pulled, I'm missing: a decent Archer with a decent nature, and a decent Ryoma / Ike. I might be able to build up a Gordin if needs be, so I might just end up pulling solely Red orbs from this point on. Time to save up 200 orbs like Fate did!
     
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  7. Fate Testarossa

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    Some of the new units have some pretty nifty abilities. Katarina is a great red mage imo, with stats similar to Tharja's (less HP and Def in exchange for a lot more Res), and she comes with Swift Sparrow. Attack Ploy is all right I guess. Athena seems like she could be really good with skill inheritance: very high speed, decent attack, and good defenses for a fast sword unit as well. Low HP is the only drawback. Her default kit is strong on its own as she comes with Moonbow, which will almost always proc in a melee matchup thanks to her high speed, which in turn triggers Wo Dao's 10 extra damage. Sturdy Blow allows her to make trading a lot more favorable as long as she is initiating. Luke isn't that bad either, especially for a mounted unit (most of them have one stat that is extremely low, but his lowest is his Res at 20). Panic Ploy is obviously fantastic for checking/countering blade tome users and horse/flier emblem teams. Fire Boost is good on him, but would probably be better on someone with a higher base HP (such as armored units) to give them a psuedo-permanent +6 attack during battle provided they stay healthy (which most can thanks to abilities like Wary Fighter). Roderick seems to have pretty solid and balanced stats all around. His Firesweep Lance+ is great, and it has a noticeably high Mt for the kind of weapon that it is. It has the same power as a Silver Lance+, while the Firesweep Bow+ had 2 less power than Silver Bow+. Another cool thing he has is drag back, which would work exceptionally well on arena defense teams. He can charge at a melee enemy, attack with no damage taken in turn (so weapon triangle means nothing), and then drag them back a space for teammates to follow up and finish off. As nice as these units are or can be, I won't be pulling on this banner.

    I still want a Lucina (+Spd, -anything other than Atk), so I will be saving up my orbs until the final day of the tempest banner. As such, I am also aiming for 100k points in the tempest so I can get those 15 extra orbs (currently at 60k so I already got the first 3 orbs). I also still have yet to do the new paralogues and their respective quests (12 orbs total). I've already managed to salvage 54 orbs, so with the daily orbs on top of that, I'm hoping I'll be around 100 when it comes time for me to pull again, but we'll see.

    I know I already have masked Marth and he has the same stats as Lucina, but the nature (by default, free/GHB units are always neutral) is what matters a lot to me. That +spd will be necessary especially for arena (Chrom is slow as fuck and Ike is honestly too slow for the way the meta is right now). That being said, the amount of SP and HM you get from the trials is great. It only took me 3 days to get the max 2k hero merit on my newly pulled Tharja. Cherche and Linde are both sitting at about 4500 SP.
     
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    When "masked marth" is a lucina
     
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    Eh, even with only 31 speed, Ike can still be tailored to fit your team rather well.Distant Counter built in gives him a lot of room to run anything you need him to, really. He's more of a bait unit then a "position and forget" unit like Ryoma. Quick Reposte can guarantee you double something if you need him to kill ridiculously fast reds/colorless, he naturally has Swordbreaker and can inherit Red tome breaker if you need him to kill Tharja/Cecilia on a bait. If you use him as a bait+kill character, Aether also becomes much more relevant and Heavy Blade is normally able to activate on many of the mages if you can get them away from their buff bots.

    He gets a lot better with +Speed since with a Speed seal he hits 35 which lets him make a ton of relevant units miss doubles on him with Fury 3. Although you can't just change him to that nature...

    Ryoma is technically better due to Speed being the most important stat in Fire Emblem, but Ike is absolutely still amazing.

    Masked Marth having the same stats as Lucina is also a nice little nod to Awakening that I liked a lot.
     
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    Today is the final day of Tempest Trials, and with my 105 orbs saved up, I decided to try my luck again for Lucina. All I managed to pull at the start was a 5* Seliph (+Res -Spd though so not too shabby). Got a few more Hinatas and a greatly needed Shanna which I can give her desperation to Tharja. As my orbs dropped lower and lower, I came across a circle with 3 red orbs, and after pulling the first one on the bottom left, I contemplated backing out, only to give in to greed and pull the other two red orbs.
    https://prnt.sc/fmilv2
    Lucina was +Spd -HP so I was beyond excited about that. Alm was +Res -HP, not -Atk so I'm content with that. Didn't check Tharja's nature because I already have a +Spd -Def one.

    Oddly enough, now that I finally got what I wanted, I'm not sure when to summon. I'd love to get a better IV'd Eirika because I do plan on using the 4* one I pulled today (+HP -Spd) and a Ryoma would be cool as well. No idea when those will be banner units again, but I don't care for the supposedly incoming fury banner (I have 7 hinatas from 2 pulling sessions) and if the healer gauntlet has a banner, I won't pull on that even though I'd love to have an Elise. Since I finally did get Lucina, I stopped after that circle, so I still have 20 orbs left. Time to save up again!
     
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    I wish FE Heroes was more community interactive. Tag is: BrutalJesus92
    My current team is all 5 stars: Lyn, Hector, Roy and Fjorn. Come get rekt if chu dare. Held top spot in arena for 13 days,which is actually alot more pathetic sounding than an accomplishment.
    Keep on keepin on y'all!
    #MakePOGreatAgain
    And I'm dead wrong for that hashtag.

    P.s., can anyone help me decide on 5 star Bridal Charolette with First bite+ over 5 star Nowi, with lightning breath+ for my blue slot?

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    Best all knight team I've used:
    Focus Hector, Sheena, Effie, with the goth looking chick with the corset[blanking on her name tbh] as a healer
    All knight teams rock, but isn't plausible. Any ranged character with Hit and run nerfs it.
     
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    Update. Powerful New Characters released. And I got dragon demon possesed Robin on first summon!
     
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    shit dude, that quoted post of mine was released not too long after the release of FEH. Skill inheritance and shit like that wasn't even an idea at that point.

    Main team that I use for Arena atm is THE REINHARDT, Sigurd, Hector (not LA because fuk Lilina) and whatever bonus hero fits in the team at the time, currently Valtar. Trying to build a bunch of stuff to eventually get onto the team, but nothing I can do at the moment seems to do better than THE REINHARDT. Hell, I've got Hector with Distant Defense 3 and Summoner Support S just so I can use him to counter THE REINHARDT.

    Newest banner's been very nice to me. Summoned Celica 5* (the normal one) on my free orb, and I've pulled a Grima and 3 Hardins thus far. Waiting until towards the end of the banner to decide if I want to try for LA Hector, a Grima that isn't -Atk, a +Atk Hardin (using neutral as best nature thus far) or just saving up for legendary stuff.

    Also Legendary Ike for free. Ok. What should I do with my 7 shit-natured normal Ike now then?
     
  14. Fate Testarossa

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    Seven regular Ikes? Damn. Personally, I'd merge them (even though I know people like to fodder him off for Aether). I've basically skipped every non-legendary banner ever since they came out (except for the new years banner where I got dagger Takumi), and as such, I only did the free pull on the new banner. No green orbs, no blue orbs, one red orb: 3 star Raigh. Threw my phone across the room and ended up slightly cracking the case it was in. Aside from that, I'm looking forward to this month's legendary banner; I actually have around 215 orbs saved up with hopefully another 30 to 40 orbs pending over the next 2 weeks.
     
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    Merge with the good one. Go for an sp record? Lol
     
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    I have come here on a very important mission.

    [​IMG]
    Screw you and your luck @Professor Oak. I wanted best duo Hector and Armads. Plus I don't have a fire legendary hero yet.

    Also hi.
     
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    Not pictured: The 300 orbs put into the banner to pull 3 Legendary Hectors. That one is +Atk, -Def, the exact same nature as my normal Hector, so it naturally replaced it.

    So now I'm running Legendary Hector, Hardin, THE REINHARDT (who is now 5*+10) and the rotating slot, which has recently been filled by my 5*+1 Camilla, and more recently, my 5* Sigurd.

    I'm back up to ~340 orbs now, waiting patiently for the CYL, for 2 reasons. One, VERONICA GET. Two...

    The only thing that can powercreep a Hector, is another Hector.
     
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    Oh my god people still play this.

    I've been trying to get Summer Tiki to buff out my obscene flier team some more (I'll post screenshots eventually), and I got some hilarious pity breakers. My first roll I got Katarina which was cool though her IVs were odd. Later on I got another 5* red (can't remember which, wasn't very good). Then they stopped giving me red and they instead gave my colorless and blue, so I pulled colorless and mfw I got Linde?? So I pulled again, and lo and behold, only colorless and blue, and lo and behold, no points for guessing, I got a FUCKING TAKO IM SO HAPPY EVEN IF THIS IS NOT WHAT I PLANNED. Why do I get the best luck when I don't want it. Oh I also got a +spd -def Eldigan after that and I'm just... so I use you or the +def -spd I already have. :thonk:
     
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    I don't play this seriously anymore. Been shit on too much by the gacha so I said fuck it. :]

    Girls Frontline is a great game. You should all consider looking into it. :]
     
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    Yeah, I don't have much time anymore (seriously it's been 3 weeks since posting already holy fuck), but I still sign on to get my log in orbs when the events are going on, or when I need to get the new ghb's that pop out on occasion. Spent most of my free orb stash chasing summer Camilla for flier emblem but it didn't pan out, so haven't had much to do in the game proper.

    Just hop on occasionally to see which 2 rotating units I need to beat new content, since Vanguard Ike+Axe Azura kills a lot of shit on their own. I've only had to swap out Ike once or twice for most of the infernal challenges.
     
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    New CYL heroes are out in about 3 hours time from this post.

    Veronica is a Cavalry Staff user who gets 14 might RAZZLE DAZZLE + Peshkatz built-in, the best healing skill in Recover+, the best healer-exclusive special in Windfire Balm+, which is a Hone Armor for all allies regardless of movement type once used, and Drive Close Def 2. I wonder if just using Pain+ or Gravity+ is better though :)

    Ephraim is an Armored Axe user who gets Garm, a 16 might weapon with a guarenteed follow-up attack if he has any stat boost at all (from Hone, Rally etc), or if he's under the effects of Armored Boots or Armor March. He also has Armor March. Close Def 3 and Draconic Aura are nice, but new Fighter skill for Armored units takes the cake: If units HP is 50% or more, it acts like Guard (adds special charge so opposing units can't use specials) AND increases your special charge. So to recap what that means: Ephraim has a prf weapon, Bold Fighter 2, Vengeful Fighter 3, Guard 6 and Armor March, and can do whatever he wants with his Assist or A slots. Fucking hell fire.

    Celica gets the Royal Sword, and looks like she's from the original version of Fire Emblem Gaiden. Special Cooldown+1 if within 2 spaces of an ally means fast specials for her, and she gets Double Lion... y'know, that skill that makes Alm's Falchion refine the best one? She also gets DEATH BLOW 4. Galeforce is nice, as is Atk Tactic. She's going to hit hard and fast, but I think she's arguably the worst of the four overall.

    HECTOR DOES NOT HAVE ARMADS. Instead, he gets a 16 might Slaying Lance+ with Quick Riposte 5 - Special Cooldown+1 by default, auto follow-up above 50% health if attacked. Ignis is cool, Even Res Wave is an odd choice, and Bold Fighter is always a good thing to have. Instead of Distant Counter, he has "Ostian Counter", which is Distant Counter with Sturdy Stance 2 built in (Atk/Def +4 when opponent initiates). This Hector can run the "Omnibreaker" set that was unique to OG Hector - His default weapon + Wary Fighter 3 + Quick Riposte Seal = opponents cannot double, but you can always double if attacked. Doubt it'll be his best choice, as Legendary Hector can do it better thanks to his version of Armads. Still, I guess I might run Hector + Hector as my default armored duo now!

    tl;dr shit's broken, yo
     
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    Spectrum Rally AND Threaten is pretty amazing even without doing dumb things like Nino strats. Especially with Razzle-Dazzle, getting to (de)buff and deal damage at the same time while not being threatened back is insane. That's an 8 point swing in damage when units are positioned correctly AND we're talking about someone who fits on horse emblem. The team that has the reach to make use of this. There's a reason Axura is my dancer of choice above the others lol, and it's not just because of synergy with Ike. Might have to brave colorless hell this time, she seems like a god tier support. That was the easiest choice of my life in any game that's given out free units.

    Sounds like they finally made him into the army he was in his home game. Not much to say there, armor unit power creep is the strongest creep due to "weakest movement type."

    Of course she's the worst, where the hell's my DONG ARMOR ALM? Seriously though, shes another solid sword unit in an oversaturated pool of wonderful sword unit. Double Lion is Double Lion, but she also doesn't have dragon killing that Alm has which is what honestly makes that more obscene on him. Pull if you're lacking in a strong sword user, because she's still going to be a beast of a unit in player phase. Hell even if you just don't have a strong Brave Sword user(but we all should have Arden so?) you can feel good getting her.

    Shit tier unit, won't be pulling.

    Really though Hector the Recktor is as good in blue as he is in green it seems. I'll gladly add this one to the barracks if he actually shows up.

    --- Post updated ---
    Breaking rules etc, feel free to merge this later but I'm just making a new one to alert people who've seen my post already.

    Here's the stat lines of all four for those still on the fence, should ease your decision a bit:

    [​IMG]

    Not sure if all those are neutral, but IVs only truly matter if you're prepared to spend large amounts of money on the game anyway.
     
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    i've got a lot of orbs saved up
    did 3 full boards
    gray, sanaki and regular celica all appeared
    stopping for now
     
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    Celica and Ephraim are very good, Hector is Blue Hector, Veronica is good support. The first two are particularly broken when supported sufficiently.

    Celica is among the best player phase swords available (enemy phase build is possible though) and definitely the best player phase infantry unit to date. Kinda nuts you can make Galeforce go off in one round guaranteed with Quickened Pulse Seal (unless she ohkos the target) if she's within 2 of an ally (might actually prove difficult to make that happen every time on player phase). Her statline is stellar, and that's without her weapon which gives her 3 more speed. On offense, she can quad everything slower than +spd Ryoma with neutral IVs which is good, because she can rip through the rest with a double (DEATH BLOW 4). On defense, she should only die to brave weapons or swordbreaker mages (or bold fighter stuff but don't leave her in range of armors).

    Ephraim is just, what. His B alone (basically like Guard 6 Drain since you steal the opponent's charge instead of erasing it) makes him ridiculous enough. The thing where he needs a boost and armored march to occur to get FREE DOUBLES on every phase regardless of HP% is just an added bonus. And it's not hard at all to make guaranteed, unlike Celica's. If he's next to someone with Hone/Fortify Armor he gets that for free. Even without Distant Counter this unit is bonkers, WITH Distant Counter he literally can't lose to anything except maybe TA Dancer Micaiah. The face that he's safe to run Distant Counter without exposing himself to the Moonbow he would cause from counter-attacking makes him easily the most broken unit if built fully.

    Hector is doing Hector things, except maybe a little bit better now, and he left Armads behind. I'm not blown away by his skills but he's really solid, so if you need a blue armor he's definitely beating out Effie due to that Z Distant Counter.

    Veronica I haven't thought about too much, she just seems like a really good support unit, especially if you want to like, use a Blade Tome on a mixed movement type team. Her attack is reasonably high so I can see her actually killing things with Wrathful. My main issue with her is "why use a broken unit to support less broken units when you can just use a really broken unit" kind of logic. But I will say she's the best healer in the game because her supporting skills are really, really good.

    Personally I think I'm going for Celica, because I think she'll be fun to use. Ephraim is in theory the best though especially if you can burn a DC on him.
     
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    I've had a LOT of red pitybreakers since my last post, including a Saber (shit nature), Mia (shit nature), Flying Olivia (shit nature), 2 Ares (shit natures) and a Soleil (shit nature), as well as a Lute (shit nature) as my only blue pitybreaker.

    On the plus side, I pulled a +Spd, -HP Veronica which was nice. I also pulled a +Def, -HP Hector, which I can definitely work with because that boosts his BST to the next bin. I did get a second one too, but it was a shit nature.

    Ephraim hasn't even thought about showing up - green orbs are mostly non-existant, and those that are seem to be Barst (though I can't complain at Reposition fodder). Celica is hiding very well behind a long line of shit 5* units, and I'm considering using my free pull on her.

    Down to ~150 orbs now. I might just give up on Ephraim and pull Celica for free... but there is also like 20 days left on the banner, so fuck it!
     
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    I've gotten Fury Master Hinata 11 times now. Budget builds won't be a problem for a while at least.

    Re: Veronica and support units in general really, they come into their own during Tempest events and Grand Conquest-esque maps. Sure, in Arena and let's be honest most GHB's you would rather bring in another powerhouse to kill everything faster. It's the endurance modes that make you appreciate what a busted support unit does for your team. It's not "why not bring another broken unit," but more "how can I make these units even more disgusting." Seriously Veronica having magical dagger+healing utility really makes her an insane glue. And on top of that, Drive Close Defense is fun to turtle up behind Arden with.

    Almost dried up the well of free orbs so Ephraim or Hector is becoming further out of reach. Used 80 so far and aside from the Hinatas I've been getting lots of Soren and Boey. Not the most amazing fodder though I may build a Soren later on.

    Also I hate Peri.
     
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