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[Resource] SM Ubers Teambuilding Compendium

Discussion in 'Gen 7 Ubers' started by Joyverse, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. Joyverse

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    Hi, welcome to the SM Ubers Teambuilding Compendium! This thread is meant to show all the usable Pokemon in the Ubers Metagame and what roles they cover. Feel free to suggest changes! Have fun!

    Hazard Setters
    1) Stealth Rock
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    2) Spikes
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    3) Toxic Spikes
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    4) Sticky Web
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    Hazard Control
    1) Defog
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    2) Rapid Spin
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    3) Magic Bounce / Taunt (Anti Hazard Setup)
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    4) Spinblockers
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    Dedicated Checks
    1) Primal Groudon Check
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    2) Primal Kyogre Check
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    3) Xerneas Check
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    4) Lunala Check
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    5) Extremekiller Arceus Check
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    6) Mega Salamence Check
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    7) Ho-oh Check
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    8) Yveltal Check
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    Choice and Assault Vest Users
    1) Choice Band
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    2) Choice Specs
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    3) Choice Scarf
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    4) Assault Vest
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    Priority Users
    1) Prankster Abusers

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    2) Priority Attackers
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    Megas
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    Trappers
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    Stallbreakers
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    Pivots
    1) Offensive Pivots
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    2)Defensive Pivots
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    Supporters
    1) Wish / Healing Wish
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    2) Heal Bell / Aromatherapy
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    3) Phazers
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    Stat Uppers
    1) Swords Dance
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    2) Dragon Dance
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    3) Calm Mind
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    4) Nasty Plot / Tail Glow
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    5) Z-Hypnosis
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    6) Rock Polish / Tailwind / Flame Charge
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    7) Beast Boost
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    8)Unique Stat Uppers
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    (Z-Splash)
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    [​IMG] (Z-Heal Block)
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    (Geomancy / Z-Geomancy)

    [​IMG] (Shell Smash)
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    [​IMG](Extreme Evoboost)

     
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    Mega Diancie, Blaziken and Mawile are unobtainable for now, they shouldn't be here.
     
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    Aye thx, nice catch. I was doing this alone while referencing the old thread. Would fix soon.

    Going to add an extra section titled Phazers in the supporters section imo.
     
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    Thanks for your contribution! Pretty solid one, although there are a couple of additions and removals. Before i throw them, i believe that the /Switchins should be deleted, since it is a really controversial term + Checks is just enough.

    Additions:
    Primal Groudon Check: [​IMG][​IMG]
    Primal Kyogre Check: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Xerneas Check: [​IMG]
    Extreme Ekiller Arceus Check: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Mega Salamence Check: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    Spikes / Toxic Spikes: [​IMG]

    Priority Attackers: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    Those are the ones i have to add for now, i do not know if i missed anything.

    Also:
    Please delete this lol.
     
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    ive seen more kartana in ubers than xurkitree. needs to be added to sd/beast boost(?)
     
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    Added.
    I had added Yveltal to priority but that was just a duplicate Aegislash ripme. I need new specs fuck. :c

    You could have removed that line btw cuz moderator ab00s is fun~

    Stole Arceus-Dark sprite from VR ty MM.

    Added Phazers in Supporters section.Is Body Slam / Dtail Parashuffler Salamence-M a thing now? Please tell me lelz.

    Added Tapu Lele to Specs, Scarf and Offensive Pivots cause I have seen it quite a bit..

    Kartana should probs go in Beast Boost, SD and probs Defog. I didn't add it due it not being in the VR but I would add it if needed.
     
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    Removals:
    Extremekiller Arceus Check: [​IMG][​IMG]
    Choice Band: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] ( they are too unviable sets)
    Choice Specs: [​IMG][​IMG]


    You can Also add the Eevee with normalium z in the last category.
     
  8. Joyverse

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    Uhm. Do it yourself, if it's absolutely needed. I'll get to it tomorrow otherwise if there isn't a problem. I don't have pc access as we speak and won't be on a pc today anyway.

    What about Kartana though?
     
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    I do not really like evading other people's threads/work. You can edit it when you will be able :)

    I literally never saw Kartana in an Ubers match.
     
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    New Megas HYPE!

    Added the Mewtwos in Anti-Hazard Setup, Megas and Stallbreakers.

    Also added MM2Y in CM. Flash me for addition / removals MM.
     
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    Update: I added Mega Mawile where I deemed it necessary. Tell me for any additions / removals.

    Edit: Whoops! Forgot to add Alolan Muk into trappers. Will be added soon.
    Edit2: Done.
     
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    [​IMG] <----- SD

    y/y?
     
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    It is mostly used defensively, but i guess you can list it as SD. Although it requires enormous support in order to work.
     
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    [​IMG] <------ NP
    Tested at Smogon, I don't feel like NP Lucario is going to do anything exemplary this gen either. Unless ofc you run NP/Focus Blast/Flash Cannon/Dank Pulse which totally destroys Stall after Arceus-Ground and / or Ho-Oh are gawn but eh they are always there and they both have reliable recovery and Phoenix has Regen to go as well. F.

    [​IMG] <-------- CB and -------> CS
    LOL. CB is not at all good in Ubers , especially when your opponent has a ghost type (or two) Pheromosa gives away a lot of free turns and it also risks heavy recoil if it has HJK. I feel like Specs overall is a much better set due it being able take care of shit like MegaBro, and even the blobs to an extent and not suffer to the same extent as Band. (Tested em both cuz I'm bored af)

    [​IMG] --------> Stallbreaker
    Why tf no one reminded me about this? Should be added imo.

    [​IMG]-------> Ho-oh Check
    A neutral suggestion, however I find Dragceus being a nice emergency check to Ho-oh solely due to the fact that Dragceus is run defensively most of the time and it resists Sacred Fire and cripples with Toxic in return. Not to to mention it's STAB Judgment hits Ho-oh neutrally anyway.

    OK, imma wait before I add.
     
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    Yveltal and Dragceus should be added to the forementioned categories. I will see for any other potential changes and post soon!
     
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    Did a bit more testing around it, removed it from CB and added it to Specs. However it needs a lotta team support so be careful.

    [​IMG] ----> Added to Z-Heal Block in Unique Stat-Uppers.

    Apparently it's still a thing and not just a passing trend like I assumed.

    So dead for a resource thread, :/ Hopefully POWC sees some activity here, I hope.
     
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    NP Mega Lucario should stay as it still has a niche in beating slower-paced teams around physically defensive threats like Zyg-C and MBro. Problem here is we have a highly offense oriented meta this gen, more than ORAS tbh.

    Testing Z-Memento Whimsi btw.

    e: Added Yveltal Checks. Tell me if I missed any.
     
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    No Alolan Muk under Lunala checks?

    Mega Mence should go under stallbreakers I feel. With Facade it can absorb Will-O-Wisps and other forms of status and abuse them.
     
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    Guess I had forgotten to add it lol.

    Added both to the OP!
     
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    Blazikenite ---> SD, Megas
    Tyranarite ----> DD, Megas, Trappers
    Marshadow ---> Ekiller Check, Offensive Pivot, Spinblocker

    Opinions on all these?
    Also someone send me the menu-sprites for these guys, will be highly appreciated! :D
     
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    Can someone help me explain what these categories mean?