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[Metagame] Suspect Discussion: Jirachi

Discussion in 'Gen 7 UU' started by Xdevo, Apr 3, 2017.

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  1. Xdevo

    Xdevo Some things can't be changed Tiering Administrator Tour Director Tiering Administrator Tour Director

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    Discuss the possibility of Jirachi being banned from the SM UU tier.
    Use this thread to discuss Jirachi's impact on the metagame. Talk about the different sets it is capable of using, and potential checks/counters. State your opinion on the suspect and if it should or shouldn't be banned from the metagame. Having no firm stance on the matter is fine too.

    All opinions are valid and discussion among players is not only allowed but encouraged, provided your opinion has solid reasoning and displays having playing with or against the suspect in the tier. Do not simply state "it's broken" or "it's not broken".

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  2. Xdevo

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    Jirachi @ Normalium Z
    Ability: Serene Grace
    - Iron Head
    - Happy Hour
    - Filler
    - Filler

    Happy Hour Jirachi is incredibly good right now in UU. Between the natural bulk that Jirachi already has, the +1 to both defenses, and Normalium reducing the power of Knock Off, it becomes very difficult to actually stop Jirachi from getting Happy Hour off with enough damage to revenge kill it with priority or a decent Scarf user. Iron Head at +1 Speed and Atk is incredibly hard to stop due to those 60% flinches. +1 SpAtk allows Jirachi to use a STAB Psychic, Energy Ball, or a Hidden Power move to hit various Physical Walls that will try to tank Iron Head for long enough to phaze or retaliate. Jirachi has a slew of other coverage options from the various elemental punches and Drain Punch to complete coverage and choose exactly what checks Jirachi can lure and eliminate for the remainder of the team.

    Jirachi has plenty of other sets obviously, SubToxic, Scarf, CM, etc, but the Happy Hour set is so overwhelming great I don't feel they offer much more than would otherwise be given better by other things or worth wasting a sweeper as great as Jirachi.
     
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  3. Annoying Orange

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    A major problem is trying to know what jirachi you're dealing with. And even then, as you said, once it gets a z happy hour up, it's hard to deal with thanks to its great movepool + serene grace (which makes it seem almost non-competitive at times) Ban imo as it is just too good for the tier.
     
  4. Valhalla

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    Pretty much agree with all of these arguments against Jirachi and also vote Ban
     
  5. Xdevo

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    Jirachi is hereby banned.
     
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