Oh look, another thread where we discuss some possibilities for balancing a certain aspect of the game. This seems to be happening a lot with the tiers I'm leading... Anyway, remember when Astrohawke made that NFE thread way back in the beginning of last month, when Smeargle and Wobb were roaming free? Well, after giving the metagame some time to settle and balancing rain and hail, we've been able to actually look at what individual pokemon can do. And with that, some people think Eviolite deserves a ban. So, we have a few options: 1) Ban Eviolite: Well, this is the logical action to take: if something makes a group of pokemon broken, you ban the thing that makes them broken. 2) Ban certain NFE pokemon: This is more of a conservative approach; instead of just banning the item, you ban the pokemon that are broken with the item. In order to keep this as least biased as possible, I kept those short, but those are the two things myself and Luck(Django's away for now) are thinking of doing. So, discuss. Try to keep your posts reasonable, do not talk about things you have not tested or at least faced, and back them up with facts(calcs are always nice). Also, please try and keep your posts at least 1 sentence long, and elaborate on a point when you try to make one. For example, posting one word, like "trick" all by itself does not contribute anything at all.