Most Up To Date Pokémon Simulator

Pokémon Online is the most popular, accurate, and complete Pokémon battle simulator out there. Open source, it's currently available in 11 languages, on your computer or your Android device. It hosts more than a million battles per month. Download the latest version and enjoy competitive battles across all six generations in real time against trainers from around the world!

Download
v 2.4.1


March 2011 LU Tiers

Discussion in 'LU' started by Hikari, Mar 1, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Hikari

    Hikari Forum Moderator

    Messages:
    2,981
    The official tiers for the month of March (the cut-off between UU and LU being 3%):

    For UU lists, see the Generation 5 Tier List.

    Dream World stats found here

    Wifi stats found here

    Finally is here what many of you were waiting for LU. We have two new diferent tier (probably they will implemented soon), LU DW and LU Wifi. It was invented mainly to keep some notable pokemon like Cresselia, Celebi, Absol etc out of NU as well as to cut down the number of pokemon that will be in NU.

    Both tier are similar but both still have some big diferences, like Cresselia being LU in Wifi but not in DW. I can't talk alot about this tier without playing it but one thing is sure, the power creep is huge. Personally i can't wait to try this tier.

    And for those of you who don't know, tiers are obtained from the usage statistics, NOT FROM THE POKEMON'S COMPETITIVE STRENGTH. So if something falls to LU, it's because it's not used very frequently compared to other pokemon. Though, once the UU tier centralizes and stabilizes more, it's possible the cutoff will change.

    Ok, finally got lists for the LU tiers themselves. Now, since there are a ton of pokemon in the tier(since no tier is below it right now), I just got the top 100 used pokemon from each tier's stats. To find a pokemon you may be looking for, use ctrl+f and type its name after opening the hide tags.

    DW LU:
    [hide]# 1 - Machamp (17.68 %)

    # 2 - Celebi (15.62 %)

    # 3 - Staraptor (15.45 %)

    # 4 - Sharpedo (13.70 %)

    # 5 - Sandslash (11.93 %)
    # 6 - Aerodactyl (11.57 %)
    # 7 - Flygon (10.76 %)
    # 8 - Dusknoir (10.59 %)
    # 9 - Accelgor (10.03 %)
    # 10 - Entei (9.86 %)
    # 11 - Lampent (9.34 %)
    # 12 - Hippopotas (9.30 %)
    # 13 - Slowking (9.26 %)
    # 14 - Rotom-W (9.24 %)
    # 15 - Gigalith (9.15 %)
    # 16 - Duosion (8.84 %)
    # 17 - Crawdaunt (8.74 %)
    # 18 - Gorebyss (8.67 %)
    # 19 - Uxie (8.61 %)
    # 20 - Magnezone (8.03 %)
    # 21 - Porygon-Z (8.01 %)
    # 22 - Krookodile (7.57 %)
    # 23 - Tangela (7.51 %)
    # 24 - Empoleon (6.01 %)
    # 25 - Cryogonal (5.69 %)
    # 26 - Lilligant (5.65 %)
    # 27 - Manectric (5.63 %)
    # 28 - Crustle (5.61 %)
    # 29 - Snorlax (5.40 %)
    # 30 - Electivire (5.36 %)
    # 31 - Omastar (5.32 %)
    # 32 - Moltres (5.13 %)
    # 33 - Typhlosion (5.11 %)
    # 34 - Hitmonchan (5.03 %)
    # 35 - Gligar (4.90 %)
    # 36 - Aggron (4.88 %)
    # 37 - Scyther (4.82 %)
    # 38 - Nidoqueen (4.67 %)
    # 39 - Stoutland (4.48 %)
    # 40 - Meloetta (4.32 %)
    # 41 - Smeargle (4.23 %)
    # 42 - Absol (4.13 %)
    # 43 - Mesprit (4.07 %)
    # 44 - Samurott (4.07 %)
    # 45 - Torterra (4.05 %)
    # 46 - Jolteon (3.94 %)
    # 47 - Steelix (3.94 %)
    # 48 - Qwilfish (3.88 %)
    # 49 - Gardevoir (3.84 %)
    # 50 - Medicham (3.79 %)
    # 51 - Weezing (3.77 %)
    # 52 - Lanturn (3.69 %)
    # 53 - Glaceon (3.54 %)
    # 54 - Amoonguss (3.52 %)
    # 55 - Tangrowth (3.52 %)
    # 56 - Toxicroak (3.50 %)
    # 57 - Cacturne (3.38 %)
    # 58 - Persian (3.32 %)
    # 59 - Sawk (3.25 %)
    # 60 - Gastrodon (3.19 %)
    # 61 - Armaldo (3.15 %)
    # 62 - Shelgon (3.13 %)
    # 63 - Cradily (3.09 %)
    # 64 - Gurdurr (3.00 %)
    # 65 - Poliwrath (2.98 %)
    # 66 - Swoobat (2.96 %)
    # 67 - Ferroseed (2.96 %)
    # 68 - Archeops (2.88 %)
    # 69 - Tornadus (2.86 %)
    # 70 - Kabutops (2.81 %)
    # 71 - Linoone (2.77 %)
    # 72 - Ninjask (2.73 %)
    # 73 - Umbreon (2.50 %)
    # 74 - Houndoom (2.48 %)
    # 75 - Butterfree (2.42 %)
    # 76 - Exeggutor (2.40 %)
    # 77 - Drifblim (2.38 %)
    # 78 - Musharna (2.38 %)
    # 79 - Liepard (2.27 %)
    # 80 - Mr. Mime (2.19 %)
    # 81 - Miltank (2.19 %)
    # 82 - Hariyama (2.13 %)
    # 83 - Audino (2.09 %)
    # 84 - Regice (2.00 %)
    # 85 - Eelektross (1.98 %)
    # 86 - Torkoal (1.96 %)
    # 87 - Tauros (1.94 %)
    # 88 - Floatzel (1.94 %)
    # 89 - Gothitelle (1.88 %)
    # 90 - Magmortar (1.77 %)
    # 91 - Leafeon (1.77 %)
    # 92 - Regirock (1.75 %)
    # 93 - Drapion (1.73 %)
    # 94 - Sawsbuck (1.71 %)
    # 95 - Gastrodon-East (1.71 %)
    # 96 - Frillish (1.69 %)
    # 97 - Throh (1.67 %)
    # 98 - Altaria (1.65 %)
    # 99 - Tropius (1.65 %)
    # 100 - Druddigon (1.58 %)[/hide]

    Wifi LU:
    [hide]
    # 1 - Nidoqueen (15.64 %)

    # 2 - Hitmonchan (13.16 %)

    # 3 - Slowking (12.06 %)

    # 4 - Celebi (11.90 %)

    # 5 - Absol (10.93 %)
    # 6 - Lilligant (10.27 %)
    # 7 - Rotom (10.14 %)
    # 8 - Gorebyss (9.99 %)
    # 9 - Zoroark (9.96 %)
    # 10 - Cresselia (9.48 %)
    # 11 - Lanturn (8.17 %)
    # 12 - Entei (8.13 %)
    # 13 - Gligar (8.07 %)
    # 14 - Victini (7.91 %)
    # 15 - Cobalion (7.57 %)
    # 16 - Tornadus (6.97 %)
    # 17 - Sharpedo (6.28 %)
    # 18 - Mesprit (6.03 %)
    # 19 - Alomomola (5.81 %)
    # 20 - Scolipede (5.78 %)
    # 21 - Exeggutor (5.78 %)
    # 22 - Sandslash (5.62 %)
    # 23 - Scyther (5.59 %)
    # 24 - Gurdurr (5.56 %)
    # 25 - Misdreavus (5.53 %)
    # 26 - Duosion (5.43 %)
    # 27 - Aerodactyl (5.34 %)
    # 28 - Gigalith (5.28 %)
    # 29 - Honchkrow (5.18 %)
    # 30 - Cryogonal (5.06 %)
    # 31 - Magnezone (5.03 %)
    # 32 - Medicham (4.96 %)
    # 33 - Omastar (4.65 %)
    # 34 - Miltank (4.65 %)
    # 35 - Aggron (4.43 %)
    # 36 - Umbreon (4.33 %)
    # 37 - Quagsire (4.30 %)
    # 38 - Moltres (4.27 %)
    # 39 - Crustle (4.11 %)
    # 40 - Druddigon (4.08 %)
    # 41 - Tauros (4.08 %)
    # 42 - Amoonguss (3.99 %)
    # 43 - Golem (3.71 %)
    # 44 - Seaking (3.71 %)
    # 45 - Marowak (3.64 %)
    # 46 - Emboar (3.49 %)
    # 47 - Simipour (3.45 %)
    # 48 - Skuntank (3.42 %)
    # 49 - Sawk (3.33 %)
    # 50 - Manectric (3.33 %)
    # 51 - Smeargle (3.17 %)
    # 52 - Armaldo (3.14 %)
    # 53 - Arbok (3.02 %)
    # 54 - Lickilicky (3.02 %)
    # 55 - Persian (2.95 %)
    # 56 - Xatu (2.95 %)
    # 57 - Crawdaunt (2.95 %)
    # 58 - Qwilfish (2.89 %)
    # 59 - Clefairy (2.86 %)
    # 60 - Walrein (2.73 %)
    # 61 - Magmortar (2.73 %)
    # 62 - Sawsbuck (2.70 %)
    # 63 - Glaceon (2.70 %)
    # 64 - Braviary (2.67 %)
    # 65 - Shedinja (2.67 %)
    # 66 - Whimsicott (2.64 %)
    # 67 - Muk (2.64 %)
    # 68 - Torkoal (2.61 %)
    # 69 - Snover (2.58 %)
    # 70 - Eelektross (2.54 %)
    # 71 - Haunter (2.54 %)
    # 72 - Tangela (2.51 %)
    # 73 - Gardevoir (2.51 %)
    # 74 - Ninjask (2.51 %)
    # 75 - Accelgor (2.45 %)
    # 76 - Kabutops (2.45 %)
    # 77 - Hariyama (2.45 %)
    # 78 - Torterra (2.45 %)
    # 79 - Flareon (2.42 %)
    # 80 - Articuno (2.39 %)
    # 81 - Masquerain (2.39 %)
    # 82 - Drifblim (2.36 %)
    # 83 - Dugtrio (2.32 %)
    # 84 - Rotom-C (2.29 %)
    # 85 - Rampardos (2.29 %)
    # 86 - Butterfree (2.23 %)
    # 87 - Pidgeot (2.20 %)
    # 88 - Klinklang (2.14 %)
    # 89 - Cradily (2.14 %)
    # 90 - Regirock (2.14 %)
    # 91 - Ampharos (2.10 %)
    # 92 - Roselia (1.98 %)
    # 93 - Pikachu (1.95 %)
    # 94 - Primeape (1.92 %)
    # 95 - Cinccino (1.88 %)
    # 96 - Archeops (1.85 %)
    # 97 - Yanma (1.85 %)
    # 98 - Serperior (1.85 %)
    # 99 - Samurott (1.85 %)
    # 100 - Shuckle (1.82 %)[/hide]

    Ban list(might as well make a place for it now, just in case):
    [hide]Cresselia[/hide]
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 23, 2011
  2. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

    Messages:
    1,155
    It'll certainly be interesting to see what will turn up as suspects, Porygon2 seems like a likely candidate. Anyways I am totally psyched for this, nice job everyone!
  3. yiran

    yiran The wind dies.

    Messages:
    1,698
    Thanks BR!

    PS. Is there a reason we chose 3%?
  4. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Administrator Administrator

    Messages:
    6,299
  5. Noog

    Noog So much potential...

    Messages:
    349
    Alright, a real non-weather metagame. No Abomasnow or Hippopotas, which is nice.

    It'll be interesting to see what others use for this tier.
  6. yiran

    yiran The wind dies.

    Messages:
    1,698
    Hippopotas is still in Dream World LU.
  7. Noog

    Noog So much potential...

    Messages:
    349
    Well, I don't play DW, so it shouldn't affect me.

    I'm surprised that things like Torunerosu aren't being used that often. I'm also wondering how the lack of spinners will affect the tier...
  8. 4PM

    4PM Guest

    yay another tier for cresselia to dominate
  9. VuvuzelaΒzz

    VuvuzelaΒzz Master Debater Forum Moderator

    Messages:
    836
    Thank goodness. Maybe now the Star-Dog Champion, aka Muurando, can get some usage.
    Well both sand and hail are going to be fully viable in DW LU, as both Snover and hippo are LU and most of their abusers are there as well. Anyway, I'm inclined to think that LU is going to turn into a stall metagame, especially after the first few bans come into place. Also, did anyone else smile maniacally when they saw this:
  10. Burnin'Red

    Burnin'Red Official Cookie Stealer

    Messages:
    485
    Finally a LU tier, would be fun
    Thanks PO staff
  11. Aurist

    Aurist SIX walls. NO synergy. Server Staff

    Messages:
    2,120
    I'm real excited for LU :3 it's gonna be a real clusterfuck for a little while but that's all the fun of it
  12. Wander

    Wander Shitty Wizard

    Messages:
    1,226
    Might want to try this, all in all, Thanks to the staff as always
  13. Marche Radiuju

    Marche Radiuju crush it casually

    Messages:
    411
    Stall? No. Aerodactyl and all his monstrous friends are back.

    I seriously can't wait to play this. Except I gotta go now, and might be busy the whole rest of the week :(

    I believe there's a pastebin floating around with all of the possible LU pokemon in it (excluding pre-evos not considered strong enough), but I don't have it.
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2011
  14. marmoteo

    marmoteo New Member

    Messages:
    569
    Exciting stuff! :D
  15. Blue_Star

    Blue_Star Banned

    Messages:
    298
    Meh, all I see are BP chains >_>
    Perish song time
  16. jas61292

    jas61292 New Member

    Messages:
    1
    I like the LU concept. I've been waiting for something like this for a while.

    Though I'm not a fan of the LU name. "Little used" doesn't really make much sense as little is more of a description than a comparison word. I always though a tier like this should be called RU for Rarely Used.

    But anyways, this looks like it should be fun.
  17. BenXxX

    BenXxX Banned

    Messages:
    150
    ok i know LU is based on usage but i played a lot of LU battles today and Sand is really broken. Also Porygon2 is OU in DW and ppl have been using it in DW LU. So you really should fix that.
  18. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Administrator Administrator

    Messages:
    6,299
    it's Porygon2 not Porygon 2, BR needs to fix this!

    I already fixed it on the server.
  19. Kibago

    Kibago New Member

    Messages:
    24
    i know it's a little thing, but it'd be nice to have a combined list of everything that's not allowed here (Ubers+OU+UU) so it'll be easier to figure out what is. the way it is now, i have to open the DW OU and UU lists.
  20. Gerard

    Gerard New Member

    Messages:
    288
    Finaly a tier wothout Ambipom, I'm so happy about it, i can actually use Persian in this, looking for it
  21. Stofil

    Stofil Hello Miss Galaxy

    Messages:
    1,155
    I just noticed the rather gigantic differences between DW and wifi, it'll be hard to keep track of what is what this time around...
  22. Xdevo

    Xdevo Limitless possibilities Forum Moderator

    Messages:
    1,553
    LU can also mean Lesser Used if it bugs you that much.
  23. ZIAH

    ZIAH ¬_¬

    Messages:
    324
    i reckon you should call it Less Used rather than Little Used. that is my 2 cents, deuces
  24. xgina

    xgina : )

    Messages:
    54
    there seems to be a mistake. somehow, rotom-w has been put in LU instead of OU. please rectify this.

    also this tier is bad
  25. yiran

    yiran The wind dies.

    Messages:
    1,698
    Rotom-W is actually LU.

    And if you don't have something nice to say, please don't say it :(
  26. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Administrator Administrator

    Messages:
    6,299
    It's only OU in Wifi.
  27. Gerard

    Gerard New Member

    Messages:
    288
    why is Porygon 2 allowed in LC?, i was fighting today and i found two
  28. pokemonnerd

    pokemonnerd No one listens to pnerd. Forum Moderator

    Messages:
    2,244
    Because tiers are sorted by usage, not the "power level" of a pokemon or anything like that. Also, it's only OU in Dream world, not Wifi; that's probably the reason. And you meant LU, right?
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2011
  29. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Administrator Administrator

    Messages:
    6,299
    Fixed it
  30. classiccartoonsftw

    classiccartoonsftw New Member

    Messages:
    9
    What exactly does LU mean?
  31. Aurist

    Aurist SIX walls. NO synergy. Server Staff

    Messages:
    2,120
    Little Used. it's a tier between UU and NU.
  32. Project Oppenheimer

    Project Oppenheimer Fire of a hundred suns

    Messages:
    1,395
    Ninjask will dominate once again!
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 9, 2011
  33. yiran

    yiran The wind dies.

    Messages:
    1,698
    Not really, we have Stealth Rock and a fair amount of rock pokemon.

    Baton pass teams are hard to bring down if you don't have someone with unaware, perish song or haze.
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 9, 2011
  34. AltJunkie

    AltJunkie Guest

    By 3%, does that mean 3% in the standard DW and Wifi tiers, or 3% usage in DW/Wifi uu?
  35. destinybond

    destinybond Server Staff

    Messages:
    649
    In UU. The 3% mark in OU determines UU tiers
  36. Project Oppenheimer

    Project Oppenheimer Fire of a hundred suns

    Messages:
    1,395
  37. White Chaos

    White Chaos Nuzlocker

    Messages:
    20
    I love the new LU tier but I have one small problem, when trying to go on Wifi LU it doesn't allow me to use it because it says I have a Scolipede. But Scolipede is allowed in in the Wifi LU because it is # 33. Can you fix this please. Here is the message that I got.

    (10:22:22) The following pokemons of your team are invalid (ban, level, moveset, item...) in Wifi LU, hence you can't choose that tier: Scolipede.
  38. pokemonnerd

    pokemonnerd No one listens to pnerd. Forum Moderator

    Messages:
    2,244
    You're probably using Quick Feet, which isn't released yet. It could also be that you have an illegal move set.
  39. White Chaos

    White Chaos Nuzlocker

    Messages:
    20
    I'm pretty sure this is a legal set in Wifi LU

    Pendra (Pendoraa) (M) @ Salac Berry
    Trait: Swarm
    EVs: 120 HP / 136 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Agility
    - Megahorn
    - Swords Dance
    - Baton Pass

    It still wont let me in.
  40. coyotte508

    coyotte508 Administrator Administrator

    Messages:
    6,299
    Salac berry isn't accessible in wifi
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page